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When was the last time you had a conversation that made you think deeper than you planned to?

In this episode, I sit down with my frat brother, Saif Madar — a man I’ve known for over two decades. Same yard. Different eras. Real brotherhood.

Saif was born in Guyana and raised in the Bronx. Engineer by training. MBA in finance. A numbers guy. Analytical. Measured. Strategic.

And if you ask him, he’ll tell you he’s not the type to sit around opening up or getting lost in deep reflection.

But here’s the thing — many of us raised in households where strength was non-negotiable weren’t taught to process out loud. We were taught to handle it. To perform. To push through. To keep emotion tight and responsibility high.

In many of our communities, vulnerability wasn’t modeled, so it wasn’t the first language we learned. Carrying it without complaint was the expectation. Reflection wasn’t always encouraged. Providing was. Producing was. Protecting was.

So slowing down to reflect? To unpack? To say what’s really going on inside?

That’s something most of us learn later — if we learn it at all.

What makes this conversation different is the space. The trust. The shared fraternal bond that allows two men — raised in different homes but shaped by parallel expectations, similar pressures expressed through slightly different cultural tones — to slow down and speak more openly than we were taught to growing up.

And he did.

This episode moves through identity, responsibility, growth, brotherhood, leadership, and fatherhood — with humor, honesty, and moments that even caught him off guard.

There’s laughter.
There’s reflection.
There’s proof that when trust is present, depth isn’t forced — it shows up on its own. And for men who’ve spent much of their lives carrying responsibility quietly, that kind of space is rare.

If you’ve ever been taught to “just handle it”…
If you’ve ever carried quiet pressure without calling it pressure…
If you’ve ever wondered what it looks like when strong men talk differently…

Tap in.

This one’s layered.

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Some relationships don’t fade with time—they just pause.
And when they resume, they remind you who you were and who you’re becoming.

In this episode, I sit down with Cedric Nelson, a brother I’ve known for over four decades. We became friends and teammates in high school, went on to play college ball in different places, and somehow stayed connected through the noise of life—a friendship that always picked up right where it left off, even after years without talking.

This isn’t a story about dramatic moments or viral highlights. It’s about something rarer: consistency. Character. This is a conversation about growth, integrity, fatherhood, and the quiet work of building something that lasts. We talk about choosing character over convenience, building systems instead of chasing quick wins, and what it means to still be standing, still growing, and still accountable after time has done its work—especially when you’re thinking beyond yourself and the legacy you’re building.

It’s a conversation about time—how it shapes us, tests our relationships, and clarifies what actually matters. It’s for anyone who’s lived long enough to know the real test isn’t how you start, but how you sustain.

No hype.
No shortcuts.
Just perspective, brotherhood, and the long game.

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This episode launches Legacy Blueprint, a new panel series within Leave the Pile Higher, Grow Your Legacy. Legacy Blueprint brings brothers together for honest, reflective conversations around leadership, healing, and legacy. Each Blueprint centers on a specific theme and may unfold as a single episode or a multi-part conversation, depending on how deep we chop it up.

In Part One: The Weight We Carry, I vibe with three brothers for an unfiltered dialog about manhood, mental health, fatherhood, leadership, and the emotional weight we've learned to carry in silence.

Though they’re meeting each other for the first time, I know each of them — and the conversation quickly becomes deep and uplifting. We laugh, we cry, and we’re vulnerable, sharing lessons learned, the growth we’ve experienced, and the road we’re still walking together as we handle the real business of being our brother’s keeper.

This episode ain't about having all the answers. But naming the weight, breaking the silence, and reminding ourselves that we don’t have to carry everything alone.

Part Two — The Work We Do continues this LB conversation, shifting the focus from naming the weight to how we do what we do.

Panel Participants

James Worthy — Fatherhood advocate, coach, speaker & business consultant.

Khalid B. Scott — Psychotherapist, author, life coach & speaker.

Ferris Dean — Financial planner and insurance professional.

Topics Covered

• Generational legacy and emotional inheritance
• The pressure to “keep it together” as Black men
• Mental health, therapy, and resistance to vulnerability
• Identity, code-switching, and leadership under pressure
• Fatherhood, marriage, and showing up while carrying weight
• Depression, burnout, and suicide awareness
• Brotherhood, healing, and learning how to refill your cup

Music Credit

Music featured in this episode by — Robbie Cunningham.

Support & Resources

If this conversation brings something up for you, please know you don’t have to navigate it alone.

Immediate Support (U.S.):
• 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline — Call or text 988 (24/7)
• Crisis Text Line — Text HOME to 741741

Finding a Therapist or Counselor:
• Psychology Today
• Black Men's Health
• Black Men Heal

If you’re outside the U.S., visit https://findahelpline.com
to locate resources in your country.

Listener Note

This episode is for conversation, reflection, and awareness. Nothing shared here is medical, legal, or financial advice. If you’re struggling, please reach out to a qualified professional or one of

Ready to grow your legacy and make a lasting impact? Let’s connect.

Schedule a 15-minute Legacy Snapshot—a quick session to explore how Savage Family Office can help you protect, build, and expand what you’re creating.
Together, we’ll make sure what you build today stands strong for future generations.
Book your Legacy Snapshot today and take the first step toward leaving the pile higher.

Are you or someone you know doing the work of legacy-building?
We’re always looking for guests with stories that inspire growth, faith, and perseverance.

To be considered—or to ask a question about an episode—email leavethepilehigher@gmail.com
.