Estée and Bea discuss the man who proposed with a $900 Walmart engagement ring and got upset when she said no. Was she being too high-maintenance? Estée worries that a guy is applying the "freezer method" to her, and Bea reveals she's doing the same to someone else. In this episode, girls talk about soft ghosting, dead birthday flowers, and how to accept someone's flaws, not tolerate their existence.

What happens when you meet your ex’s ex… and actually like her?In the 4th episode of Kind of Btchy, Estée is in Paris (with no hot water) and Bea is in Guatemala (dealing with some unexpected chemistry with a friend). Together, they unpack modern dating, making relationship decisions when you’re too young, and what it means to be truly seen online.From unhinged Hinge messages to quiet moments of self-growth, it’s an honest talk about boundaries, connection, and why sometimes the real plot twist isn’t a man — it’s the women you meet along the way.

Chapters

00:00 — Paris, no hot water, sink showers03:47 — Bea talks fear of 'being seen' online09:01 — Estée goes on paris hinge17:24 — Estée meets her ex’s ex19:10 — The unexpected friendship21:15 — Bea’s hinge detox and 905 updates26:48 — Dating lessons we had to learn in our 20s 29:56 — We want pre-baked men32:11 — Shedding the baggage from an ex

Bea gets stuck in an elevator and meets four firefighters; Estée packs up for Paris and reflects on her creative beginnings. This episode unpacks chasing freedom, balancing passion with stability, and how creating isn’t a choice, it’s a need. Estée & Bea also discuss launch anxiety, fear of being seen, and finding partners who understand your creative drive.