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Jen, Gabe & Chewy

Jen, Gabe & Chewy

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ESPN reporter Jen Lada teams up with Packers Hall of Famer Mark Chmura and longtime ESPN Milwaukee host Gabe Neitzel as they provide unique and raw perspectives on local and national sports headlines.2024, Good Karma Brands, LLC American Football Baseball & Softball Basketball Politik & Regierungen
  • Are the Packers Cheap? Assistant Coach Pay, Joe Barry Fallout & a Changing Philosophy
    Jan 23 2026
    The Green Bay Packers have long carried a reputation they hate — being cheap when it comes to assistant coaches — and in this hour of Jen, Gabe & Chewy, the crew digs into whether that label is still fair, outdated, or finally being corrected. 012326 JGC Hour 1 With new reporting from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and fresh details about coordinator salaries, the conversation turns into a forensic breakdown of how the Packers got here — and why the Joe Barry era may have forced a philosophical reset inside the organization. 🏈 The “cheap Packers” narrative The hour opens by reacting to a detailed piece from Pete Doherty that reveals concrete numbers behind Packers coaching salaries — numbers that are rarely public in the NFL. The biggest revelation: Jeff Hafley was making roughly $4 million per year as defensive coordinator The Packers also paid a $2 million buyout to pry him away from Boston College Rich Bisaccia remains one of the highest-paid special teams coordinators in the league Those facts seem to contradict the long-held belief that Green Bay pinches pennies everywhere except the head coach spot. 🔄 Did Joe Barry expose the problem? The crew connects the dots back to the winter of 2021, when the Packers’ defensive coordinator search ended with Joe Barry — a hire that, in hindsight, felt desperate. The theory debated throughout the hour: The Packers may have low-balled candidates in 2021 More qualified options passed Joe Barry accepted because he had few alternatives The defense suffered as a result From there, the argument follows that Matt LaFleur and team leadership may have gone to the front office and said, “We can’t keep doing this.” What followed: A major spend on Rich Bisaccia A major spend (and buyout) on Jeff Hafley A noticeable shift toward paying market rates for coordinators 💰 There’s no reason to be cheap One of the most pointed parts of the hour centers on money — or rather, the lack of a real excuse. The Packers reportedly have nearly $580 million in reserve, a number that keeps growing annually. While they don’t have a billionaire owner or private equity cash infusion like other teams, they also don’t need one. The hosts ask the obvious question: If you have the money, why risk losing quality coaches over a few million dollars? 🧠 Reputation matters in hiring The discussion shifts to reputation — how organizations are viewed inside coaching circles. If Green Bay had developed a reputation for low-balling assistants: Top candidates would hesitate Agents would steer clients elsewhere The team would end up choosing from the bottom of the pool The crew argues that the Packers now appear motivated to correct the record, making it clear they will pay “Green Bay Packers money” for the right coordinator — especially in a year where the defensive coordinator market is crowded and competitive. 🎙️ Jason Wilde joins Later in the hour, Jason Wilde joins to add context from his reporting and experience around the league. He confirms that both things can be true at once: The Packers were cheap in certain eras They appear to have materially changed in recent years Wilde also notes how secretive coaching salaries are in the NFL, suggesting that when exact numbers leak, they almost always come from teams trying to shape a narrative. That raises another key question: Are the Packers intentionally letting it be known now that they pay — because they don’t want past mistakes repeated? ⚖️ What matters now The hour closes by bringing the conversation back to the present: The Packers are in a hyper-competitive DC market Multiple teams are hunting for top coordinators Reputations, money, and timing all matter The Joe Barry era may be over, but the lesson remains clear: If you don’t pay for quality, you pay for mistakes. 🎧 A detailed, insider-level discussion on reputation, money, and why the Packers’ coaching philosophy appears to be evolving — only on Jen, Gabe & Chewy. ...
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    55 Min.
  • Giannis Frustration Peaks: Trade Deadline Pressure, Bucks Unraveling & What Comes Next
    Jan 23 2026
    The NBA trade deadline is approaching — and the Milwaukee Bucks are officially under a microscope. In this hour of Jen, Gabe & Chewy, the crew dives deep into the growing belief around the league that the Giannis Antetokounmpo era in Milwaukee may be nearing its most critical moment yet. With the Bucks sitting outside even the Play-In picture and Giannis growing increasingly vocal about effort, ball movement, and accountability, the tension feels impossible to ignore. 012326 JGC Hour 2 🏀 Giannis’ frustration is no longer subtle The show opens by reacting to Giannis’ postgame comments — calling out teammates for not passing the ball, not playing hard, and not playing selfless basketball. While his critiques are accurate, the crew notes a major shift: this isn’t how Giannis usually communicates. The frustration feels deeper. More demonstrative. More fed up. Jen and Gabe agree this is the first time in Giannis’ prime where: The team looks broken Solutions aren’t obvious And he doesn’t seem to know what else to try As Gabe puts it, this feels less like anger — and more like exhaustion. ⏰ “Hour by hour” trade pressure National voices are circling. Stephen A. Smith is yelling for the Bucks to “wake the hell up and trade him.” Brian Windhorst says the league is monitoring Milwaukee hour by hour. The crew debates whether Giannis actually wants out — or whether he’s simply trapped between loyalty and reality. Giannis doesn’t want to hurt the fan base, the city, or his legacy. But the product on the floor is becoming impossible to defend. Jen makes the case that if Giannis publicly asked out, Milwaukee fans would understand. He delivered a championship, built the Deer District, and elevated the franchise permanently. 🔄 Why a deadline trade still feels unlikely Despite the noise, the group explains why a Giannis trade before the deadline remains unlikely: His salary is extremely difficult to move midseason under the new CBA Fewer teams have cap flexibility right now Draft pick rules limit how many first-rounders can be included The best return would come in the offseason The smarter play, they argue, is waiting until Giannis can reject the supermax in October — opening the floodgates to the entire league. 📦 What would “fair value” even look like? The discussion turns to trade math: Rudy Gobert cost four first-round picks Donovan Mitchell, Damian Lillard, and others reset the market Giannis should theoretically demand six or seven firsts But reality intervenes. The NBA draft is a lottery beyond the top five picks. Picks alone don’t rebuild franchises — young players do. Any Giannis deal would need: Multiple blue-chip prospects Pick swaps Creative cap maneuvering And even then, the Bucks might still struggle to become relevant quickly. 🏟️ Milwaukee isn’t going anywhere One persistent fear is addressed head-on: relocation. The crew is unequivocal: The Bucks are locked into Milwaukee Fiserv Forum is new and state-of-the-art A new entertainment district is being built next door This isn’t a Seattle situation. It’s not even close. What will be ugly, however, is life after Giannis — no matter how it happens. 🧠 Adversity can make — or break — a team A recurring theme of the hour: Adversity creates great teams… and destroys bad ones. The Bucks are now staring down the most adversity Giannis has ever faced as “the guy.” If they rally and make the playoffs from 11th, it becomes one of the most impressive turnarounds in franchise history. If they don’t, the Bucks own their draft pick in what is being called one of the most top-heavy NBA drafts ever. Either way, something big is coming. ⚖️ The uncomfortable truth The hour closes with a hard reality: Giannis hasn’t asked out The Bucks haven’t said they’re trading him But the situation is no longer stable Every game, every comment, every loss pushes the organization closer to a defining decision. 🎧 A tense, honest, and wide-ranging conversa ...
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    34 Min.
  • Brewers Trade Freddy Peralta — Trust the Front Office, Hate the Reality
    Jan 22 2026
    wo things can be true at the same time — and that duality defines this entire episode of Jen, Gabe & Chewy. The Milwaukee Brewers officially traded Freddie Peralta and Tobias Myers to the New York Mets, and the reaction from the crew (and the fan base) lives in a very uncomfortable middle ground: you can trust the front office… and still hate that this is the reality. 012226 JGC Hour 1 ⚾ The duality of being a Brewers fan Jen opens the show by laying out the tension every Brewers fan feels: The front office has consistently made smart, disciplined moves The Brewers remain competitive year after year And yet, the cycle never changes The Brewers develop elite talent, nurture it, and then — when free agency looms — send it off to its “forever home.” It’s the “foster home vs. forever home” analogy all over again. 🏈 Why this trade still stings Freddie Peralta wasn’t just another arm: He was the ace He made every start He posted a sub-3 ERA He struck out 200+ hitters He stabilized the rotation in a sport built on attrition Jen and Gabe argue that, yes, the Brewers may eventually benefit — but they are undeniably worse right now because of this move. That’s the part fans are allowed to be upset about. 🌱 How many shortstops do you need? One of the loudest questions of the hour: How many Top-100 shortstops does one organization need? With Jet Williams joining an already crowded system that includes: Bryce Turang Jesus Made Multiple other infield prospects …the crew questions fit, not talent. Someone eventually has to hit the ball out of the ballpark, and speed-and-defense-only prospects don’t solve that. 📉 Why not just keep Freddie? A central argument: The Brewers could have: Kept Peralta for 2026 Let him walk like Willy Adames Collected a Top-40 compensatory pick Maintained rotation stability for one more run Instead, they chose certainty over hope — converting a known ace into future assets in an uncertain MLB landscape that may not even play baseball in 2027. 💰 The real frustration: ownership, not the front office The show is clear about where frustration should be directed: Matt Arnold and the baseball ops group are good at their jobs Pat Murphy is a strong manager The system works — within constraints But the constraints are the problem. Mark Attanasio’s Brewers are profitable, valuable, and supported by fans who: Funded a stadium Show up consistently Buy merchandise Watch every game And yet, payroll continues to trend downward, not upward. As Chewy puts it: “I’m not going to do the bidding of a billionaire.” 📞 Fans weigh in The Carbless Talk & Text Line fills with: Comparisons to Corbin Burnes and Josh Hader Frustration that Tobias Myers felt like a “throw-in” Fear that Jacob Misiorowski is just the next pitcher to be traded Exhaustion with always building for later One sentiment comes through loud and clear: Fans aren’t asking for reckless spending — they’re asking for seriousness. ⚖️ The bottom line The Brewers will likely: Compete for the division Be in the playoff mix Continue developing talent well But until the organization shows a willingness to push chips in, this cycle will repeat — and fans will continue living in that uncomfortable duality. You can trust the process. You can hate the structure. And you can still love the team. 🎧 A raw, honest, very Wisconsin conversation about baseball economics, loyalty, and why “next year” doesn’t feel good enough anymore — only on Jen, Gabe & Chewy. Brewers, Milwaukee Brewers, Freddie Peralta trade, Brewers Mets trade, Brewers pitching, Brewers prospects, Brewers farm system, Brewers ownership, Mark Attanasio, Brewers frustration, MLB small market teams, Brewers rebuild, Wisconsin sports, ESPN Milwaukee, Jen Gabe and Chewy
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    55 Min.
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