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In this second part of the discussion the guys started, they dig back into this very complex topic, but most of the episode is a powerful testimony by Acie. While the guys were recording the first part of this episode a very hard and uncomfortable conversation began to emerge. That conversation, among some other things, brought Acie to a pretty low place in the days and weeks following. He shares that and God's great love and provision for him in the time since they were last in the studio.

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In this episode the guys start a conversation about this very complex but pivotal topic. In some ways these two words make up the foundational blocks of effective discipleship. But they also prove to be very elusive to even seasoned Christian men and women. Some people just assume these are words for Pastors or Priests. Others may feel like they should apply to the average Christ follower, but get overwhelmed by the variety of opinions and teachings on them. Acie and Steve are going to try to get down to the roots of this topic. They have certainly had their share of challenges in trying to pursue calling and purpose in their lives. This is a topic that they would love to hear some feedback from you as they dive into these conversations.

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Is this episode 18, or maybe episode 1 of a new season, who knows? Acie and Steve are trying to get back in the saddle. In this episode the guys talk about where they have been, why they were there (instead of here), and where they are going. They are also in the new studio and putting these out on video for the YouTube platform.