Why the MAGA movement is far smarter, and far more dangerous, than liberals want to admit.

Political theorist Laura K. Field joins me to expose the philosophical, religious, and institutional ideas driving the MAGA New Right. From elite Catholic theorists to post-liberal power strategies, this conversation reveals why Trumpism didn’t come out of nowhere, and why ignoring it is no longer an option.

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Journalist William J. Kole joins me to talk about In Guns We Trust and the rise of gun culture inside white evangelical Christianity. We discuss fear, politics, self-defense myths, suicide, and why firearms have come to occupy a moral place once reserved for Jesus.

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LINKS

https://www.billkolebooks.com

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Why Play Matters for Children and Families | Making It Up with Christopher Mannino

A conversation about play, attention, and why being fully present with children is some of the most important work we do.

I’ve spent a lifetime raising children and helping raise grandchildren. In this conversation with Christopher Mannino, I found myself recognizing ideas I’ve learned not from books, but from years of showing up. This is about play, imagination, and why presence — not performance — is what children remember.

LINKS

https://www.christophermannino.com

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In this conversation, I speak with Sharon Eubank about what it really means to help other people without stripping them of dignity or agency.

Drawing on decades of humanitarian work, Sharon reflects on accountability, choice, faith, and why good intentions alone are not enough. We talk about suffering not as an abstract problem, but as something that asks something of us in our communities, our institutions, and our daily lives.

This is a thoughtful discussion about responsibility, humility, and the quiet power of doing small things with great love.

LINKS

https://www.justserve.org/

Doing Small Things with Great Love

https://bookshop.org/a/99692/9781639934287

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Novelist TJ Poortinga joins me to discuss Electric Orange, a prophetic satire exposing Christian nationalism, evangelical power, masculinity, and political rage — written by someone who knows the culture from the inside.

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LINKS

Electric Orange by TJ Poortinga

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FRKVT7KX

https://bookshop.org/a/99692/9798999882400

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Filmmaker Petra Costa and producer Alessandra Orofino join Frank Schaeffer to explore how evangelical movements fused with authoritarian politics in Brazil—and why the same forces are reshaping democracy in the United States.

Watch Apocalypse in the Tropics

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What happens when a beagle bred for laboratory research gets a second life—and changes a human forever?

Journalist and author Melanie D.G. Kaplan joins me for a conversation about her book Lab Dog: A Beagle and His Human Investigate the Surprising World of Animal Research.

It’s also our December pick for It Has to Be Read.

At the center of the story is Hammy—a former lab dog who survived isolation, fear, and trauma, and went on to teach lessons about forgiveness, patience, joy, and what it truly means to be alive.

This episode explores:

• The hidden reality of animal research in the U.S.
• Why tens of thousands of dogs are still used in labs
• How love and companionship can rehabilitate trauma
• What dogs teach humans about forgiveness and presence
• Why compassion may be our last shared moral language

If you love dogs, care about ethics, or believe stories can change the world, I hope you’ll watch, listen, and share.

LINK

https://melaniedgkaplan.com

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Frank Schaeffer talks with Tufts University Catholic Chaplain Lynn A. Cooper, author of Embracing Our Time: The Sacrament of Interfaith Friendship, about building real connection across difference in an era of polarization and loneliness. They explore the Interfaith Student Council model, how trauma reshapes a life, the pressure-cooker reality of campus faith after Hamas’ attack and amid Christian nationalism, and why “deprivatizing friendship” might be one of the most radical moves left.

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LINKS

Lynn created and directs Be-Friend: The Interfaith Friendship Program at Tufts University. For the past five years, Tufts University Chaplaincy has offered this program to students, faculty, and staff across all four campuses (virtual and in-person options). In the next few months, a digital resource for download will be available thanks to Tufts University. If you would like to be notified when it is available for download, please register here.

https://tufts.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_5dSdTNWSJI7mNpQ

https://chaplaincy.tufts.edu/lynn-cooper/

https://bookshop.org/a/99692/9781506499253

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