In today’s episode, Walter and Davide Musolino continue the discussion about their music with Moreno who keeps arguing the case for the listener’s freedom to hear & interpret a song anyway the listener wants, without having to pay respect to the songwriter’s reasons for

composing the song. Backstories are argued over but always in the friendly spirit of sharing divergent opinions. Influential connections with migrant parents and families keep surfacing but also intimate, even disturbing, details become shared.

In today’s episode, one of two on the subject of music, we hear me - Walter - and Davide Musolino speaking about the songs we write as the founding members of an indie rock band called Man City Sirens. As anyone listening regularly would know, I am one of the co-producers of the podcast series “Immigrants and Exiles” together with my friend, Moreno Giovannoni. Moreno and I have spoken about his novels The Fireflies of Autumn and The Immigrants, beautiful books of wistful reflections and solace but also, the second, of socially and politically focused anger related to the complex world of the migrant. Now we’re expanding our horizons that little bit more to investigate the many and varied lives of the descendants of those same migrants as well. And this is where Davide steps in to bring some order and a cool head to the debate.

The chat you're about to hear was recorded in the small mountain town of Palombaro in the Abruzzo region of central Italy. It presents migration from the perspective of someone, Josh Arnold, a super successful young American businessman and entrepreneur from Arizon, who has come to Italy looking for a better life. After an unexpected heart attack a few years ago, he started out on a series of explorations to see what else the world has to offer a man who has basically everything except contentment. As it turns out, Italy is where he may have really struck it rich and in a way that money can't buy - though it still helps.

Music: "Lonely Star” by Walter Musolino & Davide Musolino.