What does it take to build a world-class product in one of the most competitive markets imaginable?

In this episode of The Stormy Stories Show, Angela Robertson sits down with Igor Debatur, CEO and Co-Founder of Outmap, to explore the journey from scaling and exiting a successful software company to building the next generation of outdoor navigation technology.

Igor shares why he returned to the founder seat after helping build and scale Uploadcare, how a message sent to a stranger on Reddit led him to Outmap, and why deep user empathy has been at the center of every company he's built.

Together, they discuss the realities of bootstrapping a fast-growing company, building in highly technical markets, attracting world-class talent, and navigating the inevitable storms founders face along the way.

They also explore the importance of outdoor adventure as a leadership tool, why walking meetings may be one of the most underrated productivity hacks, and how technology is creating unprecedented opportunities for the next generation of founders.

Whether you're building a startup, leading a team, or simply looking for inspiration to take your next bold step, this conversation is packed with practical insights and honest reflections.

In this episode, you'll learn:

• Why Igor chose to bootstrap Outmap instead of raising capital
• How a single Reddit message led to a co-founder partnership
• The hidden complexity behind building professional-grade mapping technology
• Why understanding your users is a founder's greatest advantage
• How outdoor adventure helps leaders stay clear-headed during difficult seasons
• Why there has never been a better time to start building something new