In the season sixteen finale of the Igniting Imagination® podcast, Rev. Lisa Greenwood and Rev. Dr. Gil Rendle reflect on the cultural shifts that are reshaping the ways people search for meaning, community, and belonging. This season, Lisa, Gil, and guests have confronted a growing reality: the structures we inherited may no longer be capable of holding the spiritual longings of today, especially for younger generations.

Rather than clinging to old maps, they explored what it might look like to listen more deeply, to reimagine church not as an institution to preserve, but as a living, responsive space for growth, healing, and connection, and to consider what might emerge if we allow ourselves to keep asking what comes next.

Host

Rev. Lisa Greenwood is the President & CEO of Wesleyan Impact Partners and Texas Methodist Foundation. She joined the staff of TMF in 2012 serving as Vice President for Leadership Ministry before taking her current role in 2022. Rev. Greenwood is an ordained elder in the North Texas (now Horizon Texas) Conference of the United Methodist Church, where she served congregations for twenty years. During the last five years of her local church ministry, Lisa served as a ministry strategist with Horizons Stewardship Company. She earned a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Texas at Austin and a Master of Divinity from Yale Divinity School.

Co-Host

Rev. Dr. Gil Rendle

Gil Rendle is a retired Senior Vice President and part-time consultant with Texas Methodist Foundation in Austin, Texas, and also works independently on change and leadership in denominations. With deep expertise in organizational development, systems theory, and leadership, he has guided congregations and denominational bodies through planning and transformation. He is widely respected for his work with middle judicatory and national offices navigating complex change. Gil is the author of numerous articles and monographs, along with twelve books, including: Doing the Math of Mission: Fruits, Faithfulness and Metrics (2014), Quietly Courageous: Leading the Church in a Changing World, (2018), and Countercultural: Subversive Resistance and the Neighborhood Congregation (2023). His latest monograph, Reimagining and Remapping the Religious Landscape: Chaos Before a New Ordering, is the foundation for this podcast season.

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In this episode of the Igniting Imagination® podcast, Rev. Lisa Greenwood and Rev. Dr. Gil Rendle explore the powerful intersection of faith, justice, and public life with the Rev. William "Bill" H. Lamar IV, Pastor of Metropolitan AME Church in Washington, D.C. The historic congregation recently gained national attention after winning a landmark lawsuit against the Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group.

Their conversation goes far beyond the courtroom. They dig into what this moment reveals about the rise of white Christian nationalism and why the church is called to demonstrate moral courage in turbulent times. Rev. Bill helps us trace the rich legacy of Metropolitan AME, a longstanding beacon for justice, dignity, and inclusion, and reflects on how the Christian community can continue to witness to God’s justice and human flourishing in the face of ongoing challenges.

Guests

Rev. William H. Lamar IV is the pastor of Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church in Washington, D.C. He previously served Turner Memorial AME Church in Maryland and three churches in Florida. He is a former managing director at Leadership Education at Duke Divinity. Lamar is a graduate of Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University and Duke Divinity School. He is the co-host of "Can These Bones," a faith and leadership podcast.

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Faith is evolving, and so must the ways we understand and engage with it.

In this episode of the Igniting Imagination® podcast, Rev. Lisa Greenwood and Rev. Dr. Gil Rendle sit down with Dr. Josh Packard, Co-Founder of Future of Faith, and Kris Jordan, Ministry Practitioner at Future of Faith. Together, they examine how younger generations navigate faith in a world where trust in institutions is fading, and traditional structures often feel distant.

Lisa, Gil, Josh, and Kris explore how faith communities can cultivate real connection, foster belonging, and nurture understanding amidst the challenges and opportunities of modern spirituality.

Guests

Dr. Josh Packard is the co-founder of Future of Faith and one of the foremost experts in the spiritual lives of American youth. He is an accomplished researcher in the sociology of religion and new forms of religious expression. He has authored numerous books and articles in both popular and academic outlets, including Church Refugees: Sociologists reveal why people are DONE with church but not their faith and Meaning Making: 8 Values That Drive America’s Newest Generations. His newest book is Faithful Futures: Sacred Tools for Engaging Younger Generations.

Kris Jordan is a wife, mom of seven, and openly queer youth minister at House Church Tulsa and The Well. Kris enjoys consulting and writing curriculum through Center for Youth and Contemplation for faith organizations and working as a ministry practitioner for Future of Faith. Pursuing their MDiv at Phillips Theological Seminary, Kris hopes to continue to use their identity, unique understanding, and life experiences alongside their education to impact the lives of youth and young adults in faith formation and exploration.

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