Nobody is born good at hard conversations. Not even the people who teach them.

I’ve spent years running Brené Brown’s Dare to Lead™ programme. I built the Courageous Communication™ programme specifically around the skills of having hard conversations. But teaching it and living it are two different things. In this episode I sit down with my colleague Hannah Hudson to talk honestly about what it's actually like trying to walk that talk every day.

The defensiveness that creeps in when a client gives feedback. The resentment that builds when you let something go but don't really let it go. The moment all your skills go out the window in a meeting you thought you'd ace.

We cover why anger sometimes feels like the only possible response (and why there are always other options), how to set a boundary without being angry, and the one definition of success in a hard conversation that doesn't depend on how the other person responds.

If you've ever swallowed the thing you needed to say - this one's for you.

🎓 Want to get better at hard conversations? Start with the free Courageous Communication™ email course: https://nz.boma.global/cc-email-course

🧭 Explore upcoming Dare to Lead™ programmes: https://nz.boma.global/dare-to-lead

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