How can we ensure church money is spent wisely? What are the dangers of leadership structures being influenced? How should we treat junior team members?

In this episode of In:Dependence, Phil Topham (FIEC Executive Director), John Stevens (FIEC National Director), and Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Associate National Director) discuss stories in the news from the past weeks and what lessons we can learn from them for church leadership.

Show notes

• Local Conferences 2026 (FIEC)
• Leaders' Conference 2026 (FIEC)
• Rising Lights 2027 (FIEC)
• We now know how Peter Murrell embezzled from the SNP - but not why (BBC)
• Mandelson files: What you need to know (BBC)
• Spygate latest: Southampton boss Tonda Eckert 'loved' information gathered when intern spied on opponent, panel's written reasons reveal (Sky Sports)

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00:00 - FIEC update

06:21 - Peter Murrell, embezzlement, and where the buck stops

17:33 - The Mandelson files and influencing leadership

25:34 - Southampton FC spygate and mistreating interns