What if… we got it wrong?

Not just small details. Not just interpretation.

What if we were taught to believe we were on the right side… the right team… the ones who had truth, clarity, and certainty…

But somewhere along the way, we never stopped to ask—who told us that?

In this Season 3 premiere of Safe Space with Jaxon, Jaxon sits down with content creator, podcast host, and author April Ajoy to unpack their shared upbringing in Evangelical Christianity, their journeys through deconstruction, and the tension of re-examining everything they once held as absolute.

April, known for her sharp and thoughtful humor, uses her platform to expose harmful, toxic, and sometimes just weird traits of American Evangelicalism—while still holding onto a more honest and inclusive expression of faith.

She is the author of Star-Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding a True Faith, available on Amazon, and co-host of the Tim & April Show on YouTube. Across platforms, she’s built a strong and growing audience with over 13.8K YouTube subscribers, 207K Instagram followers, and over 406K on TikTok.

From childhood faith to unraveling belief systems… to questioning the literal interpretation of dreams and visions in the Bible—Abraham, Moses, and Paul—we wrestle with a deeper question:

What if the dream was wrong?

Not meaningless… but misinterpreted.

And if that’s the case… what does it mean for everything built on top of it?

This conversation isn’t about tearing faith down.

It’s about asking better questions…
learning how to discern truth beyond tradition…
and ultimately confronting a question many are afraid to ask:

What if we’ve been defending the wrong team this whole time?

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What if the moment we gave God a name… we lost something?

In this episode of Safe Space with Jaxon, Jaxon sits down with best-selling author, speaker, and Heretic Happy Hour co-host Keith Giles for a thought-provoking conversation on humanity’s need to define the Divine.

Keith Giles is the author of the seven-part Jesus Un series and the SOLA series, and has been featured on CNN with Anderson Cooper, Coast to Coast Radio, USA Today, BuzzFeed, and John Fugelsang’s Tell Me Everything. His recent Quantum Gospel works—exploring texts like the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Mary—have become Amazon best-sellers, continuing to challenge how we understand faith, Jesus, and the nature of God.

From ancient golden calves to modern religious language, this conversation explores how names, labels, and doctrines can quietly become the very idols we think we’ve left behind.

Have we mistaken the name for the reality?

Together, Jaxon and Keith unpack:

• Why humans feel the need to name and define God

• How theology and religious identity can become modern-day idols

• The deeper meaning behind “the kingdom within”

• What it looks like to move beyond labels and live out love

At the center of this conversation is a simple but challenging idea:

Maybe God was never meant to be named—only experienced.

And maybe love was never meant to belong to religion at all.

This episode is for anyone questioning, deconstructing, or reimagining their understanding of faith, spirituality, and what it truly means to live out love without borders.

📘 Only Us: Searching for Identity & Humanity by Jaxon Phoenix (foreword by Keith Giles) available now on Amazon

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