In this episode of BABS ONLY Table Talk, our mother/daughter duo gets real about the holidays. The joy, the pressure, and everything in between. We open up about how this season can bring connection and celebration, but also trigger seasonal depression, loneliness, and emotional burnout.

We share personal stories from both perspectives, how the holidays have looked for us at different stages of life, and the ways we cope when the season doesn’t feel so merry. From setting boundaries and managing expectations to finding small moments of peace and gratitude, nothing is off limits at the table.

Whether you love the holidays, struggle through them, or feel a mix of both, this conversation is for you. Real talk, shared experiences, and honest reflections, served just the way the BABS do it.

In our very first episode of BABS ONLY Table Talk, mother–daughter duo BAB LAV (Valerie Kandare) and OG BAB (Laurine Payne) pull up a chair and introduce themselves. We’re talking about where we’re from, our individual journeys, and the meaning and mission behind BABS ONLY Table Talk.

We reflect on our year of 2025, the lessons we’re carrying forward, and share some of our goals and intentions for 2026. Real conversations, honest reflections, and the foundation of what this podcast is all about — because real talk hits harder when it’s served across the table.