In this expansive episode of Hidden Wisdom, Meghan Farner is joined by Phil McLemore for a deep exploration of the Perennial Philosophy—the timeless spiritual truth underlying all authentic religious traditions. Together, they discuss Christ not only as a historical figure, but as a universal pattern of consciousness revealed across mysticism, scripture, and lived spiritual experience.

This conversation bridges Christianity, Eastern wisdom, esoteric theology, and personal revelation, inviting listeners to move beyond dogma and into direct knowing. Phil and Meghan explore awakening, symbolic language, the limits of literalism, and what it means to truly “have eyes to see and ears to hear” in the modern spiritual journey.

This episode is for seekers who feel called to unity, depth, and spiritual maturity, and who sense that truth is larger—and more beautiful remembering—than any single tradition.

00:00 – 02:10 | Opening reflections and introduction to the episode’s theme

02:10 – 04:30 | Introducing Phil McLemore and his background in perennial wisdom

04:30 – 07:45 | What is the Perennial Philosophy? One truth, many expressions

07:45 – 11:20 | Why religions differ on the surface but agree at the mystical core

11:20 – 14:40 | Christ as a pattern of consciousness, not only a historical figure

14:40 – 18:05 | Symbolism vs. literalism in scripture and spiritual language

18:05 – 21:30 | “Eyes to see, ears to hear” — awakening beyond the ego mind

21:30 – 25:10 | Mysticism across traditions: Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, and more

25:10 – 28:40 | Why fear-based religion resists mystical knowing

28:40 – 32:20 | The role of ego, identity, and surrender in spiritual awakening

32:20 – 36:00 | The Christ path as transformation, death, and rebirth

36:00 – 39:30 | Unity consciousness and the illusion of separation

39:30 – 43:10 | How perennial wisdom heals religious trauma and division

43:10 – 46:45 | Moving from belief to embodied knowing

46:45 – 50:20 | Practical integration: living from awakened awareness

50:20 – 53:00 | Final reflections on truth, humility, and spiritual maturity

53:00 – 54:30 | Closing thoughts and invitation to deeper inquiry

Hidden Wisdom initiates truth-seekers into the Mysteries, guiding listeners toward a lived experience of the Divine that awakens and transforms faith—without dismantling family or community. This podcast is perfect for women (and men) exploring faith renovation, spiritual awakening, Christian mysticism, sacred wisdom, and embodied spiritual growth.

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In this first episode of Hidden Wisdom for 2026, Meghan introduces the core framework behind the podcast’s direction: living the mysteries. Drawing from ancient traditions, Christian mysticism, symbolism, archetype, and scripture, this episode explains the difference between exoteric religion and esoteric wisdom, and why both are essential for true spiritual maturity.

Meghan explores the soul’s journey as a process of repeated death and rebirth, the movement from head knowledge to embodied wisdom, and the transformation that occurs when inner false identities are released. This episode addresses spiritual development, deconstruction, shadow work, repentance, grace, and theosis, all framed within a Christ-centered path.

Listeners are invited to develop “eyes to see,” reclaim personal spiritual authority, and understand how religion can prepare us for deeper, inward communion with God rather than replace it.

This foundational episode sets the tone for Hidden Wisdom in 2026 and offers a grounded, Christ-rooted approach to esoteric spirituality, divine law, and living a transformed life.

Specific Timestamps

00:00–03:20 | Welcome to 2026 and the purpose of the episode
03:20–06:50 | Defining “Living the Mysteries” and hidden wisdom
06:50–10:45 | Exoteric knowledge: structure, law, and spiritual childhood
10:45–14:20 | Esoteric wisdom: heart knowledge, embodiment, and maturity
14:20–17:55 | The soul’s journey as sanctification and transformation
17:55–21:40 | Theosis, remembering the true self, and unity with God
21:40–25:10 | Asking real questions and beginning spiritual awakening
25:10–28:20 | Death, deconstruction, shadow work, and ego surrender
28:20–33:30 | Grace, rebirth, spiritual gifts, and ancient mystery traditions
33:30–37:25 | Religion vs. spirituality: the bullseye model of truth
37:25–41:20 | Masculine and feminine dynamics in religion and mysticism
41:20–44:50 | Why the esoteric feels dangerous and misunderstood
44:50–48:15 | Pendulum swings, spiritual ego, and imbalance
48:15–51:35 | Light and dark sides of spiritual distortion
51:35–55:40 | Christ as anchor, guide, and archetype of the journey
55:40–59:35 | Introducing esoteric Mormonism
59:35–01:02:55 | Scripture, authority, embodiment, and personal revelation
01:02:55–01:06:55 | Divine feminine, polarity, and perennial wisdom
01:06:55–01:10:10 | Practical steps to begin living the mysteries
01:10:10–End | Direction of Hidden Wisdom in 2026 and closing invitation

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In this extended episode of Hidden Wisdom, Meghan Farner offers a courageous and deeply grounded exploration of what it truly means to call the Bible “the Word of God.” Drawing from history, theology, mysticism, and personal discernment, Meghan invites listeners to approach scripture—especially the Old Testament—not as an inerrant divine transcript, but as a profoundly human record of humanity wrestling with God.

This episode examines biblical authorship, political and cultural influences, polytheism in ancient Israel, the suppression of the divine feminine, and the role of ego, power, and hierarchy in shaping scripture. Meghan introduces the four levels of Hebrew interpretation, demonstrates how symbolic and mystical readings restore depth and coherence, and reframes troubling biblical narratives as invitations to inner transformation rather than external obedience.

Ultimately, this episode is a call to spiritual maturity: to trust Christ, cultivate discernment, and allow God—not institutions—to be your primary tutor. For anyone studying the Bible this year, navigating faith transitions, or seeking a lived experience of the Divine beyond fear, this conversation offers clarity, permission, and profound hope.

00:00 – 02:40 | Introduction and why this topic matters now

02:40 – 04:00 | Why the Old Testament creates tension and confusion

04:00 – 06:45 | Personal discernment and direct relationship with God

06:45 – 09:45 | Projection, ego, and humans creating God in their image

09:45 – 12:45 | The Bible as a human record—not divine dictation

12:45 – 15:30 | Violence, fear, and misattributed divine commands

15:30 – 18:15 | Ancient Israel’s polytheism and the divine council

18:15 – 21:40 | Spiritual evolution and changing views of God

21:40 – 24:45 | Political power, Rome, and biblical curation

24:45 – 27:30 | Loss of feminine wisdom and oral tradition

27:30 – 30:45 | Asherah, goddess suppression, and missing feminine imagery

30:45 – 34:15 | Excluded texts and erased mystical traditions

34:15 – 37:00 | Four levels of Hebrew interpretation

37:00 – 40:15 | Symbolism as the language of scripture

40:15 – 43:00 | Cain and Abel as inner allegory

43:00 – 46:30 | Discernment, humility, and spiritual maturity

46:30 – 50:45 | Translation bias and priesthood hierarchy

50:45 – 55:30 | Christ revealing the true character of God

Hidden Wisdom initiates truth-seekers into the Mysteries, guiding listeners toward a lived experience of the Divine that awakens and transforms faith—without dismantling family or community. This podcast is perfect for women (and men) exploring faith renovation, spiritual awakening, Christian mysticism, sacred wisdom, and embodied spiritual growth.

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In this final episode of 2025, Meghan reflects on her four-year journey through second coming prophecy, symbolism, and the rediscovery of the Divine Feminine. What began as a study of last-days events has evolved into a deeper realization: Zion’s redemption and the rise of the Divine Feminine are inseparable.

Drawing from LDS canon, apocryphal texts like The Gospel of the Beloved Companion, ancient traditions, temple symbolism, and universal archetypes, Meghan shows how the feminine principles of intuition, relationship, heart-centered wisdom, and spiritual authority have always been woven into prophecy.

She explores Mary Magdalene as “the tower,” Zion as the bride, the birthing symbolism of the new heaven and new earth, and the ways masculine and feminine partnership create the spiritual maturity required for Christ’s return.

This episode dives deep into:
• the parable of the tower
• the true meaning of Magdalene
• the feminine role in death, rebirth, and the millennium
• Zion as a feminine state of being
• the partnership of masculine and feminine energies
• global prophetic traditions pointing to feminine renewal

A powerful close to the year and an invitation to reclaim the feminine in your own spiritual path.

Timestamps

00:00–02:00 | Closing the year and reflecting on the podcast journey
02:00–05:00 | Moving from prophecy study into the Divine Feminine
05:00–07:00 | Asking deep spiritual questions before you’re ready
07:00–12:00 | Parable of the Tower and its prophetic meaning
12:00–15:00 | Magdalene as “the tower” and her true identity
15:00–18:30 | The tower as feminine presence and spiritual being
18:30–23:00 | Two feminine archetypes: virgin and fallen daughter
23:00–25:00 | Feminine principles as prerequisites for Zion
25:00–30:00 | Zion, Jerusalem, and the Bride symbolism
30:00–33:00 | Birthing the new heaven and new earth
33:00–39:00 | Isaiah’s five birth metaphors
39:00–43:00 | Zion as unified heart and mind
43:00–50:00 | Global traditions confirming the feminine archetype
50:00–56:00 | How to rebuild the tower within ourselves
56:00–60:00 | Zion as a state of being and the return of Enoch
60:00–End | Closing reflection and blessing for the new year

Hidden Wisdom initiates truth-seekers into the Mysteries, guiding listeners toward a lived experience of the Divine that awakens and transforms faith—without dismantling family or community. This podcast is perfect for women (and men) exploring faith renovation, spiritual awakening, Christian mysticism, sacred wisdom, and embodied spiritual growth.

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In this special Christmas episode of Hidden Wisdom, Meghan is joined by scholar and author Donna Nielsen for a breathtaking exploration of Mother Mary’s true identity, her lineage, her temple upbringing, and the ancient traditions that honor her far beyond the biblical text.

Drawing from Christian apocrypha, Islamic scripture, German folktales, early temple traditions, Renaissance iconography, and Middle Eastern lineage records, Donna reveals a side of Mary rarely talked about. This is a beautiful, expansive, and deeply reverent journey into Mary’s life and mission—the perfect Christmas episode for anyone wanting deeper spiritual understanding.

00:00–04:00 | Introduction
04:00–06:00 | Protestant vs. Catholic Mary
06:00–13:00 | How stories honor real people without always being factual
13:00–16:00 | Maternal lineage
16:00–27:00 | Prophecy of the tree, branch, flower, and fruit of light
27:00–29:00 | Story of Anna and Joachim
29:00–32:00 | Early childhood portrayals of Mary
32:00–35:00 | Temple customs, Mary’s purity traditions, and symbolic upbringing
35:00–38:00 | Presentation of Mary at the temple: Christian and Muslim narratives
38:00–40:00 | Mary’s weaving
40:00–43:00 | Annunciation symbolism
43:00–46:00 | Women at wells
46:00–48:00 | Mary entering the Holy of Holies
48:00–50:00 | Oldest image of Mary
50:00–53:00 | Mary in Islam
53:00–56:00 | Islamic art and symbolism
56:00–59:00 | Mary the New Eve
59:00–01:03:00 | Nativity traditions
01:03:00–01:06:00 | The three Marys
01:06:00–01:10:00 | Dormition, Assumption, and ancient beliefs about Mary’s death
01:10:00–01:12:00 | Mary in Latter-day Saint tradition and limited portrayal
01:12:00–01:16:00 | Mary as the Virgin in the Book of Mormon
01:16:00–01:19:00 | Virgin: meanings beyond sexuality
01:19:00–01:23:00 | Colors, flowers, fruits, and symbolic art of Mary
01:23:00–01:28:00 | Shell and pearl symbolism
01:28:00–01:32:00 | Medieval chants and Mary’s collaborative role with Christ
01:32:00–End | Closing symbolism: milk, blood, tears, and divine compassion

Additional Resources:

The Protoevangelium of James - Reading by Meghan Farner

Holy Child Jesus by Donna Nielsen

Learn more at donna-connections.blogspot.com

Hidden Wisdom initiates truth-seekers into the Mysteries, guiding listeners toward a lived experience of the Divine that awakens and transforms faith—without dismantling family or community. This podcast is perfect for women (and men) exploring faith renovation, spiritual awakening, Christian mysticism, sacred wisdom, and embodied spiritual growth.

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In this powerful episode of Hidden Wisdom, Meghan sits down with author and educator Jocelyn Pedersen to explore her groundbreaking new book All Things in One: Reuniting Religion with the Woman in the Wilderness.

00:00–01:30 | Introduction and Jocelyn’s background
01:30–03:00 | Jocelyn’s new book and its long journey
03:00–05:00 | How her book builds on deeper mysteries of the gospel
05:00–07:00 | Why fears and veils block spiritual expansion
07:00–09:50 | Bridging individual spirituality and collective religion
09:50–11:10 | Christ’s use of global traditions and symbols
11:10–13:00 | Why symbolic and esoteric learning matters
13:00–16:00 | Addressing fear, deception, and misconceptions about “going off the deep end”
16:00–19:20 | Rethinking sin, repentance, and constant course correction
19:20–23:00 | How distrust and fear relate to the Divine Feminine
23:00–25:20 | Pentagram, symbolism, and the feminine archetype
25:20–27:20 | Trauma-based fears and why we cling to boxes
27:20–29:30 | The parable of the talents as an invitation to seek truth
29:30–31:40 | Fear categories: power, control, esteem, safety
31:40–34:20 | The illusion of control and the feminine unknown
34:20–36:40 | True feminine courage: surrender, trust, and letting go
36:40–39:20 | Jocelyn’s personal story of healing and surrender
39:20–41:40 | The feminine principle of trust and divine heldness
41:40–44:59 | Role of the Divine Masculine and partnership
44:59–48:40 | Structural masculine vs. fluid feminine: finding balance
48:40–52:20 | “Ladies first” and the biblical pattern of feminine condescension
52:20–53:40 | Learning the dance of masculine and feminine within
53:40–56:10 | Why we fear women—and why that must heal
56:10–57:30 | Jocelyn’s women’s event and book release
57:30–End | Closing thoughts and upcoming gathering

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Hidden Wisdom initiates truth-seekers into the Mysteries, guiding listeners toward a lived experience of the Divine that awakens and transforms faith—without dismantling family or community. This podcast is perfect for women (and men) exploring faith renovation, spiritual awakening, Christian mysticism, sacred wisdom, and embodied spiritual growth.

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In this episode of Hidden Wisdom, Meghan Farner sits down with Steve Pynakker, creator of Mormon Book Reviews and one of the most unique bridge-builders in the religious landscape. Steve shares his lifelong fascination with the Restoration, his journey through evangelical Christianity, atheism, and back into a reconstructed faith, and the spiritual insights he’s gained across traditions.

Together, Meghan and Steve explore the feminine and masculine elements of religion, personal revelation, the role of mystical experience, faith crises, and why genuine connection with God often requires stepping outside institutional boundaries. They dive into the tension between apologetics and Christlike love, the dangers of zeal without compassion, and the shared work of healing religious division.

This heartfelt and challenging conversation invites listeners to seek God beyond labels, recognize the divine image in every person, and cultivate a faith centered on love, humility, and spiritual authenticity.

00:00–02:10 | Introduction

02:10–07:30 | How Steve Entered the Mormon World

07:30–13:00 | Faith Deconstruction and Atheism

13:00–16:20 | Looking for Christ Instead of Faults

16:20–22:10 | The Ego Death of Faith Crisis

22:10–28:00 | Masculine and Feminine in Religion

28:00–33:20 | Toxicity, Power, and the Danger of Misused Zeal

33:20–38:00 | Responsibility as a Public Voice

38:00–44:40 | Where Apologetics Goes Wrong

44:40–52:30 | The Mirror: Calling Communities to Repentance

52:30–56:40 | The Three Questions That Transform Dialogue

56:40–59:00 | Closing Reflections: Love as the Center

Hidden Wisdom initiates truth-seekers into the Mysteries, guiding listeners toward a lived experience of the Divine that awakens and transforms faith—without dismantling family or community. This podcast is perfect for women (and men) exploring faith renovation, spiritual awakening, Christian mysticism, sacred wisdom, and embodied spiritual growth.

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In this profound episode, Meghan Farner and McKenna Woolley explore sacred sexuality—how pleasure, creativity, and divine connection are intertwined. They discuss healing sexual shame, restoring feminine energy, and finding God through embodiment, love, and conscious partnership.

🕰️ Timestamps of Key Conversation Points

00:00–03:14 — Announcements & Updates
Meghan shares gratitude for donors, introduces the new Hidden Wisdom Academy, and details upcoming courses on symbolism, the temple, and divine feminine teachings.

03:14–05:29 — Guest Introduction: McKenna Woolley
McKenna introduces herself as a mother of five, artist, and holistic practitioner whose spiritual awakening deepened after the loss of her child.

05:29–08:20 — Holistic Healing & Spiritual Growth
McKenna shares how motherhood led her into holistic health, herbalism, and sound healing—discovering spirituality through the body.

08:20–11:53 — Awakening Sacred Sexuality
The conversation turns to sacred sexuality: Meghan notes how women are often disconnected from their bodies, and McKenna describes her healing journey through pleasure, grief, and surrender.

11:53–16:10 — Balancing Masculine and Feminine Energy in Marriage
McKenna explains how letting go of control and allowing her husband to step into his masculine role transformed their relationship and intimacy.

16:10–18:57 — Sexuality, Creativity, and Manifestation
She connects sexuality to creativity, abundance, and spiritual manifestation, explaining the role of the sacral chakra as a center of creation and joy.

18:57–23:10 — Understanding the Sacral Chakra
McKenna describes the body’s energetic system and how sexual energy fuels creativity, relationships, and connection with the divine.

23:10–27:24 — Polarity and Feminine Design
Meghan and McKenna discuss the importance of masculine–feminine polarity in relationships and the spiritual design behind gendered energy.

27:24–34:39 — Healing Shame and Redefining Sexuality
They examine inherited beliefs from religious conditioning—how “good girl” programming and misinterpretation of scripture create sexual shame—and how reclaiming pleasure restores holiness.

34:39–40:49 — Sex as a Spiritual Practice
Exploration of tantric principles, sacred intimacy, and how vulnerability and confession open deeper connection to God and spouse.

40:49–46:50 — Pleasure as Creative Power
McKenna shares how awakening her sensuality unlocked creativity, finances, and faith—linking pleasure to divine creation and manifestation.

46:50–52:56 — Healing Through the Body and Mirror Work
Discussion of body acceptance, postpartum healing, and viewing the body as sacred art—a covenant partner with the spirit.

52:56–58:17 — Resources and Next Steps
McKenna shares safe ways to learn about sacred sexuality, including her Facebook group Sacred Feminine Sensuality and recommended authors.

Hidden Wisdom initiates truth-seekers into the Mysteries, guiding listeners toward a lived experience of the Divine that awakens and transforms faith—without dismantling family or community. This podcast is perfect for women (and men) exploring faith renovation, spiritual awakening, Christian mysticism, sacred wisdom, and embodied spiritual growth.

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