Episode 26: “Modern Day Robin Hood”

Jason Wheeler, 47

San Bernardino, CA • Green River, UT • Denver, CO • Pikes Peak, CO

What started as casual conversation on a cross-country trip quickly revealed something bigger: two strangers headed to Los Angeles to visit their sisters and see Kendrick Lamar & SZA. That chance meeting turned into an unlikely friendship—and a story worth telling.

Jason’s early life began in Indianapolis’ Hallville neighborhood, shadowed by family tragedy before he was even born. Despite earning multiple basketball scholarships, his energy gravitated toward hustling more than academics. After a run as a successful mortgage broker, he plunged into the “scam game”—a decision that would catch up with him later.

At 40, Jason faced his first prison sentence. Six months in solitary confinement during COVID forced him into a brutal kind of introspection. As he puts it: “Prison is a young man’s sport.” That wake-up call shifted his focus to building something real.

Today, Jason manages 42 Airbnb properties nationwide, with a goal of 100 by 2026. His philosophy—everything happens for a reason—drives both his business and his outlook on life.

Part three of our conversation unfolded at 6am in Colorado, recording while searching for a runaway horse named Conway (after Conway the Machine).

From the streets of Cali to the quiet of Colorado, Jason’s journey is a testament to transformation, resilience, and the strange ways paths cross when you stay open.

Thank you Jason, for sparing time from your extremely busy life, to come slow down for a bit. & making the first flight out to my new spot. Thus becoming the first recurring guest on the podcast. Part 4/5 are still ahead.

To follow Jason’s adventures LIVE: https://www.instagram.com/jason.wheeler.297?igsh=a3A4bjAzMmlmdHdj

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Episode 29: "How to Heal a Broken System"

Alejandro Soto, 32

Pikes Peak, Co

What started as a pre interview: became the podcast itself.

From the streets of Sinaloa to the cells of Colorado's prison system, Alejandro's life story reads like a harrowing thriller – except every word is painfully true. Arriving in America at age 11 without knowing how to read or write in any language, he found himself navigating a school system that placed him in kindergarten classes as a pre-teen, setting the stage for years of misunderstanding and marginalization.

The true nightmare began when, at just 16 years old, Alejandro was framed for attempted murder and thrown into adult county jail. Despite eventually being cleared when the actual perpetrator confessed, the justice system continued to punish him. Years later, a vindictive employer would orchestrate another setup, resulting in nine years of imprisonment on drug charges – even though court transcripts explicitly stated he was cleared.

What elevates Alejandro's narrative beyond a tale of injustice is his remarkable spiritual transformation. Within prison walls, he educated himself, earned his GED, and began a profound journey of self-discovery. Cannabis emerged as his unexpected healing tool, helping him process trauma and eventually even enabling him to help family members overcome addiction and negative spiritual forces.

Now focused on creating stability for his young son, Alejandro speaks with striking clarity about the distinction between opposing government systems and challenging those who govern unjustly. His insights into America's "mingle system" of justice – where cases are decided over coffee between judges and prosecutors rather than through evidence – offer a sobering look at institutional failures that continue to impact countless lives.

Have you ever wondered what happens when the system gets it wrong? Alejandro's story will challenge everything you thought you knew about justice in America while demonstrating the extraordinary resilience of the human spirit when faced with seemingly insurmountable odds.

If anyone is interested in taking his case, feel free to reach out. Thank you very much for lending me your time Alejandro.

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I've been humbled by the last few conversations had. I learned a whole bunch. I hope we can all find it in us to try and understand, instead of judge. To always ask questions, and continue to seek answers. There is much more outside of those 4 walls. so just be kind. <3 You write your story.

As season 3 crawls its way towards the end. With a few episodes left to go. Winter is coming, and I believe a short break is in on the horizon, then a whole revamp of many aspects of the podcast. Beautiful changes on the w

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Episode 28: "The story of Jeremiah & Kimber"

Jeremiah Lowrie, 44

Helena, Mt

What happens when the systems designed to protect children fail? In this raw and unfiltered conversation, I welcome Jeremiah, a father locked in a years-long custody battle that exposes troubling flaws in our family court system.

Jeremiah shares his journey as a dedicated father to eight-year-old Kimber, describing how he went from being the family's primary caregiver to fighting for the right to protect his daughter. The love between father and daughter radiates throughout their story—

Jeremiah recounts how his attempts to report alleged abuse led not to investigation, but to his own persecution. Through it all, Jeremiah maintains that the courts have never allowed him to speak his truth.

The conversation explores how initial court filings create immediate advantages, how allegations can be weaponized, and how those without financial resources or legal knowledge are particularly vulnerable.

The mental health toll becomes painfully evident as Jeremiah describes the support mechanisms that keep him functioning through this ordeal. His powerful closing advice to others facing similar battles—"Hold the line"—serves as both rallying cry and survival strategy.

This episode isn't just one man's story; it's a window into how custody battles can devastate families and a call for greater accountability in a system where children's wellbeing should always come first. Listen, share, and join the conversation about how we can better protect our most vulnerable.

Jeremiah wanted to dedicate this episode to Danielle Moore.

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