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Gray to Great

Gray to Great

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Rewrite your practice growth playbook. Hosted by Dan dal Degan—known to many as Triple D—this bi-monthly podcast pulls back the curtain on what it takes to thrive as a corporate retirement plan advisor in an increasingly tech-centric business world. As a former powerhouse sales leader at Salesforce and Oracle, now sitting on the board of Great Gray Trust’s holding company, Dan’s sales experience and curiosity provoke compelling conversations with top advisors. Each episode of ‘Gray to Great’ focuses on the crucial parts of the business that often get overlooked: prospecting, referral business, challenger selling, client service, tech adoption, and cutting-edge marketing tactics. This is where the playbook is rewritten, offering listeners sharp, actionable insights that go beyond investing to fuel lasting growth and success. Tune in to learn the strategies that separate the leaders from the pack—because in sales, there are no gray areas.©2025 Great Gray Trust Company, LLC. All rights reserved. Please see disclosures for important information. Management & Leadership Ökonomie
  • 17. Go Fast Alone, Go Far Together: How Michaela Scott Built a Practice Worth Cloning, and What She Wished She’d Known Sooner | Michaela Scott
    Jun 30 2026

    In this episode, Michaela Scott, Principal and Founder of Strategic Retirement Benefits Group and RPAG Council Member, shares her inspiring journey of becoming a leading and award-winning retirement plan advisor, emphasizing the importance of clarity, client selection, prioritizing your time, and how to build a strong team. Discover her insights on creating impact, fostering a positive culture, and mentoring the next generation.

    More About Michaela Scott:

    Michaela is the Founder and Principal of the Strategic Retirement Benefits Group, partnering with businesses on the financial portion of their benefits program – specifically their retirement Plans. She has been recognized as the Top Women Advisors Rising Star and Top Plan Advisors under 40, and their team has earned Top DC Advisory Team.

    Michaela earned her Master of Science in Financial Services with a concentration in Retirement Planning from the American College of Financial Services, where she serves as the incoming President of the Advisory Committee. She was awarded their Millennial Advisor of the Year award.

    She is a Certified Financial Planner™, Accredited Investment Fiduciary, Retirement Income Certified Professional®, Charted Financial Consultant, and Certified Health Savings Advisor. Michaela earned her Certified 401(k) Professional Designation administered by the Retirement Advisor University in collaboration with UCLA Anderson School of Management Executive Education. She serves at The Plan Sponsor University as an adjunct professor.

    She holds an honors Bachelor of Arts in Politics from Saint Anselm College and is the immediate past President of the St. A’s Alumni Association and current Advisory Council Co-Chair for the Department of Business and Economics. Michaela was selected to serve on the Retirement Plan Advisory Council (RPAC) for Osaic. Osaic is one of the largest networks of independent advisor firms in the country, overseeing approximately $500 billion in assets. RPAC comprises a select group of advisors who specialize in retirement plans, are innovative, and can lead by example with best practices for servicing clients and delivering results for participants.

    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction to Gray to Great and Michaela Scott
    02:07 Michaela's Origin Story and Career Path
    06:44 The Importance of Client Outcomes
    08:58 Building a Strong Team
    12:45 Clarity as a Differentiator
    17:22 Selecting Ideal Clients
    21:35 The Role of Mentorship
    26:34 Advice to a Younger Self
    29:22 Outro to Gray to Great

    Disclosures:
    Michaela Scott and The Strategic Retirement Benefits Group, LLC are not affiliated with or endorsed by, Great Gray Trust Company, LLC.

    Great Gray® and Great Gray Trust Company are service marks used in connection with various fiduciary and non-fiduciary services offered by Great Gray Trust Company, LLC.

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    30 Min.
  • 16. Advisors Plan for Everyone’s Retirement—Except Their Own | Andrew Mirolli
    Mar 24 2026

    In this episode, Dan Dal Degan speaks with Andrew Mirolli, co-founder of buyAUM, about the unique challenges and opportunities faced by financial advisors, particularly in the context of succession planning and retirement. Andrew shares his journey from a financial wholesaler to a business owner focused on helping advisors navigate their transitions. The conversation delves into the emotional aspects of selling a business, the importance of planning for life after work and the need for a structured approach to succession. Andrew emphasizes the significance of finding purpose in the next chapter of life and offers advice for business owners looking to prepare for their future.

    More About Andrew Mirolli:

    Andrew Mirolli, CEPA®, is Co-Founder and Head of Client Services at buyAUM.com, where he partners with Registered Investment Advisors to grow through acquisition and navigate succession planning with confidence. He works with both buyers and sellers to structure transitions that protect enterprise value, preserve client relationships, and honor the legacy that advisors have built.

    Prior to buyAUM.com, Andrew worked directly with advisors in roles across wholesaling, capital markets, and advisory consulting. Early in his career, he worked closely with RIAs and independent advisors, building relationships across the industry and gaining a foundation for how advisory practices are built, scaled, and eventually transitioned.

    Andrew is a Certified Exit Planning Advisor (CEPA®) and he holds his Series 63 license. His practical focus is on helping advisors think beyond discretionary revenue to the structural and relational elements that drive valuation and continuity. He graduated from the University of Georgia with a degree in Real Estate Development and currently resides outside Atlanta.

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    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction
    01:03 Introduction and Andrew's Journey with BuyAUM
    04:29 The Importance of Succession Planning
    06:36 Finding Purpose After Retirement
    07:38 Creating a Third Act Business Plan
    13:02 The Emotional Transition of Selling a Business
    15:18 Timing the Transition: When to Start Planning
    18:07 Understanding Buyer Perspectives
    21:06 The Role of Advisors in Personal Planning
    23:57 Advice for Young Entrepreneurs

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    27 Min.
  • 15. It’s Not Where You Start, It's Where You Finish: Participant Education & an Unexpected Secret to Retirement Readiness | Mark Forbes
    Mar 10 2026
    In this episode of Gray to Great, Dan Dal Degan speaks with Mark Forbes of Strategic Retirement Partners about helping participants cross the retirement finish line with confidence. Mark draws on more than 30 years in the industry to explain why intimidation around investing is often the biggest barrier and how small, consistent actions, supported by compounding and automation, can meaningfully improve outcomes.This conversation explores why retirement is a marathon rather than a sprint and how budgeting decisions connect to allocation and long-term outcomes. It also addresses the emotional side of retirement, including finding purpose beyond the workplace. Mark also shares insights on tax planning and preparing for what he calls “the descent down the mountain,” along with the importance of personalized guidance and fiduciary discipline. The episode closes with practical advice for the next generation of advisors and a clear reminder that long-term retirement outcomes are shaped less by initial conditions and more by disciplined guidance, sound process, and consistent execution over time. Connect with Us on LinkedInMore About Mark Forbes: Mark Forbes has spent more than 30 years working alongside retirement plan sponsors and participants, helping them navigate fiduciary responsibility and the real-world decisions that shape long-term retirement outcomes. At Strategic Retirement Partners, Mark is known for his process-driven approach, bringing structure and discipline to plan oversight while helping employers manage risk and giving participants a clearer path toward retirement readiness. His work consistently centers on practical education, meaningful one-on-one conversations, and keeping the fiduciary process clean and well documented.Mark holds the C(k)P designation from The Retirement Advisor University at UCLA Anderson School of Management Executive Education, as well as the Certified Plan Fiduciary Advisor (CPFA) designation. He earned his BBA from Drake University and holds the Series 66 license. Outside of the office, Mark enjoys golf, biking, following his favorite sports teams, and spending time with his family. He previously served on the Board of Directors for the Oklahoma Aquarium and currently serves on the University of Iowa Parent and Family Council. Disclosures:Investment advisory services are offered through WELLth Advisory Services, LLC, dba Strategic Retirement Partners (SRP), an SEC Registered Investment Advisor. WELLth Advisory Services, LLC, Strategic Retirement Partners (SRP), and Great Gray Group are separate entities. Great Gray Trust Company, LLC Collective Investment Funds (“Great Gray Funds”) are bank collective investment funds; they are not mutual funds. Great Gray Trust Company, LLC serves as the Trustee of the Great Gray Funds and maintains ultimate fiduciary authority over the management of, and investments made in, the Great Gray Funds. Great Gray Funds and their units are exempt from registration under the Investment Company Act of 1940 and the Securities Act of 1933, respectively.Investments in the Great Gray Funds are not bank deposits or obligations of and are not insured or guaranteed by Great Gray Trust Company, LLC, any bank, the FDIC, the Federal Reserve, or any other governmental agency. The Great Gray Funds are commingled investment vehicles, and as such, the values of the underlying investments will rise and fall according to market activity; it is possible to lose money by investing in the Great Gray Funds.Participation in Collective Investment Trust Funds is limited primarily to qualified retirement plans and certain state or local government plans and is not available to IRAs, non-governmental health and welfare plans and, in certain cases, Keogh (H.R. 10) plans. Collective Investment Trust Funds may be suitable investments for plan fiduciaries seeking to construct a well-diversified retirement savings program. Investors should consider the investment objectives, risks, charges, and expenses of any pooled investment fund carefully before investing. The Additional Fund Information and Principal Risk Definitions (PRD) contains this and other information about a Collective Investment Trust Fund and is available at www.greatgray.com/cit-fund-info/principal-risk-definitions/ or ask for a free copy by contacting Great Gray Trust Company, LLC at (866) 427-6885.This material has been prepared solely for informational purposes and does not constitute a recommendation or endorsement of any investment, strategy or CIT by Great Gray. This material is not intended to provide legal, tax, fiduciary, or investment advice. For legal, tax, fiduciary, or investment advice, please consult your own consultant, advisor or lawyer as appropriate.Great Gray® and Great Gray Trust Company are service marks used in connection with various fiduciary and non-fiduciary services offered by Great Gray Trust Company, LLC.©2026 Great Gray Trust Company, LLC. All rights ...
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    22 Min.
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