In a divided and contentious world, pastors and ministry leaders are called to lead as peacemakers. Mark DeYmaz joins Jason Daye to explore how Jesus-shaped faithfulness builds trust and witness over time.

What does it look like for pastors and ministry leaders to lead as peacemakers in a divided world while remaining faithful to who God has called them to be?

In this episode of FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye sits down with Mark DeYmaz, pastor, author, and longtime leader in the multiethnic church movement. Drawing from his latest book, Make Me an Instrument of Your Peace, Mark reflects on how ministry leaders can lean into peacemaking with clarity, courage, and compassion in contentious times.

Mark challenges pastors to resist the temptation to become politicians or pundits and instead remain faithful shepherds who care deeply for their people and communities. He shares why chasing likes, views, or applause can undermine trust, and why consistent and faithful obedience over time ultimately strengthens a ministry leader’s witness. Together, they explore how the Church’s credibility today is shaped less by what people say and more by what others see through faithful presence and loving action.

They discuss:

• What it means to lead as a peacemaker rather than a cultural combatant
• Why faithfulness over time builds trust in polarized contexts
• The danger of chasing visibility instead of pastoral integrity
• How Matthew 5:16 shapes Christian witness in the 21st century
• Practical and often overlooked ways pastors can lead in peacemaking

This conversation invites pastors and ministry leaders to embrace a Jesus-shaped vision of leadership marked by humility, trustworthiness, and quiet faithfulness, offering hope for how the Church can reflect the beauty and love of Christ in a divided world.

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

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Change is inevitable in ministry. How leaders navigate it shapes both mission and people. Aaron Abramson shares wisdom on leading organizational and cultural change with clarity, faithfulness, and care.

Drawing from his experience helping guide a global ministry through transition, Aaron reflects on how design thinking can serve mission rather than replace it. He shares how intentional design, clarity of purpose, and faith-centered leadership can help ministries adapt wisely in changing contexts without drifting from what matters most.

They discuss:

• Why change is a normal and necessary part of ministry life
• How design thinking can support faithful mission and strategy
• Leading organizational and cultural change with wisdom and intentionality
• The importance of clarity, communication, and care during transition
• Encouragement for leaders navigating uncertainty and complexity

This conversation offers steady guidance for pastors and ministry leaders who are navigating change and seeking to do so in ways that honor God, serve people well, and strengthen the long-term health of their ministries.

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

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Ministry can feel heavy even when you love Jesus deeply. In this episode of FrontStage BackStage, Bob Goff joins Jason Daye for an honest, encouraging conversation about staying close to Jesus when the work of ministry becomes weighty.

Ministry can be meaningful and heavy at the same time.

In this episode of FrontStage BackStage, Jason Daye sits down with Bob Goff for a deeply honest, pastoral conversation about what it means to walk with Jesus when ministry feels heavy.

Rather than focusing on performance, platforms, or productivity, Bob invites pastors and ministry leaders to return to closeness with Jesus, formation over information, and practices that keep faith grounded in real life.

Together, they explore:

• Why ministry often crowds out intimacy with Jesus
• How insecurity and pressure quietly shape leaders
• The difference between agreeing with Jesus and actually following Him
• Why formation matters more than more content
• How small, faithful practices can reshape the way we live and lead
• What encouragement pastors need when they feel tired, discouraged, or uncertain

Bob Goff is a New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and longtime advocate for living out a practical, love fueled faith. He is the author of several books, including his latest release, A Journey with Jesus, an interactive guide that invites readers to experience the life and teachings of Jesus through Scripture, story, and filmed experiences from the Holy Land.

This conversation is especially for pastors and ministry leaders who:

• Love Jesus deeply but feel stretched thin
• Are navigating pressure, expectations, and constant noise
• Long to stay spiritually grounded without burning out
• Want to lead from authenticity rather than obligation

FrontStage BackStage exists to care for the whole life of ministry leaders, both the public FrontStage and the personal BackStage, because healthy ministry flows from a healthy, well tended soul.

If ministry feels heavy right now, this conversation is for you.

Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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