Connie Morgan chats with DEI reformer Amri B. Johnson. Amri discusses his upbringing in a family with a rich history of self-determination and entrepreneurship, highlighting the influence of his parents and grandparents on his values. He reflects on his academic background in public health and epidemiology, which strangely eventually led him to the field of organizational development and diversity training. Amri emphasizes the importance of creating conditions for everyone to thrive in organizations, moving beyond traditional DEI frameworks to what he terms ‘emergent inclusion.’

Show notes:

1. Inclusion Wins
2. Amri’s “How to Foster True Inclusion” for the Journal of Free Black Thought
3. Amri’s Substack
4. Amri’s Reconstructing Inclusion: Making DEI Accessible, Actionable, and Sustainable

Connie Morgan catches up with FBT President Erec Smith about his move from academia to the Cato Institute, where he now serves as a research fellow. They discuss leaving professorship behind, today’s cultural climate, testifying on Capitol Hill, and, of course, rhetoric.

Michael DC Bowen and Winkfield F. Twyman Jr. explore a range of topics including the emergence of AI agents, reflections on Black History Month, generational perspectives on black identity, and the impact of migration on black communities.