This week, we handed the mic to the woman in the fourth chair… and she didn’t hesitate. Auntie Nikki... Better known as Grandma Sugar, came ready, not to be interviewed, but to interview us.

In this unexpected turn of the episode, our guest flipped the script and asked the questions we didn’t know we needed. What is art, really? Where does beauty meet usefulness? Have we made peace with how we see ourselves and what we create?

There was no prepping for this one. No outline. No easy answers. Just a real conversation that pulled threads we didn’t even realize were loose.

We talk about: – Redefining creativity as something deeper than talent – The lies we’ve believed about what “counts” – The quiet, unnoticed art of raising a family, holding faith, and showing up – And what happens when the one you’re interviewing suddenly becomes your mirror

This episode will leave you thinking differently about the things you do, the things you discount, and the things you’ve been carrying all along.

No fluff. No filters. Just real voices, asking better questions. Pull up a chair—you’re already part of the circle.

🎧 Press play. Let’s go there.

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