• What is Truth?
    Feb 19 2026

    In this episode, Mac and The Rev discuss the intricate and multifaceted nature of truth, exploring its various forms

    including subjective and objective truths. They delve into how personal truths are formed, the role of validation in

    accepting truths, and the importance of remaining open-minded and introspective. The conversation also touches

    on the relationship between faith, religious texts, and truth, highlighting the challenges and paradoxes in

    understanding and interpreting spiritual documents like the Bible. Through thought-provoking dialogue, they

    encourage listeners to be mindful of holding onto absolute truths too tightly and to embrace a more expansive

    and inclusive approach to understanding and growth.

    00:00 Introduction and Warm Welcome

    01:18 The Importance of Truth

    05:11 Biblical Insights on Truth

    08:49 Personal Truths and Beliefs

    15:23 The Paradox of Truth

    19:49 Exploring Definitions of Truth

    19:57 Subjective vs Objective Truth

    20:16 The Role of the Bible in Defining Truth

    22:32 The Human Condition and Fear of Truth

    24:38 Clarity Over Certainty

    28:32 Different Perspectives on Biblical Truth

    34:58 Encouragement for Open-Mindedness

    36:37 Concluding Thoughts and Future Conversations

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    37 Min.
  • Unity: Church Done Differently
    Feb 12 2026

    In this episode, Mac and The Rev return from a brief hiatus and delve into core theological and doctrinal frictions within Christianity. They propose examining foundational ideas to dissipate existing angst. The discussion covers Jesus as an example rather than an exception, challenging traditional views on God, heaven, and hell. They emphasize the importance of practical application and community, exploring thoughts, and creating an inclusive spiritual dialogue. The hosts encourage listeners to consider different perspectives, entertain new ideas, and find like-minded communities, like a Unity Church, for a more holistic and evolving understanding of faith.

    00:00 Introduction and Setting the Tone

    00:44 Welcome Back and Podcast Overview

    00:52 Exploring Foundational Friction in Christianity

    02:41 Creating a Community of Ideas

    04:13 The Power of Open Conversations

    06:43 Jesus: The Great Example, Not the Exception

    12:39 Questioning Traditional Views of God

    17:53 Exploring Deep Spiritual Concepts

    18:47 Relevance of Christianity Today

    19:29 Quotes from John Shelby Spong

    19:37 Antiquity and Modern Understanding

    21:02 The Journey Back to Oneness

    24:15 Embracing Red Pill Thinking

    25:09 Unity Philosophy and Practical Christianity

    33:44 The Balance of Head and Heart

    34:59 Encouragement for Spiritual Exploration

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    39 Min.
  • The Art of the Start: Awakening Beyond Complacency
    Feb 5 2026

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the theme of 'going to the other side,' emphasizing the constant evolution in faith and personal growth. They explore the idea of challenging the status quo in religious beliefs, particularly in Christianity, to find deeper, more meaningful spiritual experiences.

    The conversation touches on the importance of questioning, the value of overcoming fears, and the role of direct experiences in personal and spiritual development. Listeners are encouraged to seek new perspectives and embrace the journey of evolving thought, whether in faith or other aspects of life.

    00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage

    00:22 The Theme of Evolution and Faith

    01:31 Challenging Complacency and Seeking Growth

    03:50 Permission to Evolve and Embrace Change

    09:29 The Art of the Start: Taking the First Step

    17:27 The Importance of Friction in Starting the Journey

    17:48 Historical Perspectives on Church Thought

    19:16 Challenging Traditional Theologies

    20:44 Personal Faith and Direct Experience

    22:58 Crossing to the Other Side: A Metaphor for Spiritual Growth

    26:44 The Role of Choice in Faith

    31:14 Encouragement to Explore New Ideas

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    33 Min.
  • Reassessing Persecution in American Christianity
    Jan 29 2026

    In this episode of 'Faith and Friction,' hosts Rev and Mac delve into the complexities surrounding the concept of Christian persecution in America. They discuss the misuse of the term 'persecution,' the importance of personal responsibility, and the need for Christians to reflect on their behavior and attitudes towards others. The conversation explores how adopting a victim mentality can perpetuate cycles of friction and how meaningful change requires vulnerability, self-examination, and the willingness to bridge divides. Mac and The Rev emphasize the importance of congruence between beliefs and actions, advocating for a more compassionate and effective way to live out one's faith.

    00:00 Introduction to Faith and Friction

    00:44 Exploring Christian Persecution in America

    02:02 Defining Persecution and Its Degrees

    02:33 Challenging the Use of 'Persecution'

    05:25 Victim Mindset and Its Consequences

    06:34 Historical and Current Perspectives on Religion

    11:25 The Need for Vulnerability and Growth

    18:18 The State of Our Nation

    18:43 Evolving Faith and Theology

    19:19 Sensationalism in News

    19:58 Fear and Persecution

    20:10 Christian Persecution and Hypocrisy

    22:36 Drawing Circles of Inclusion

    30:07 The Role of Suffering in Faith

    33:53 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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    35 Min.
  • Faith and the Capricious Nature of God
    Jan 22 2026

    In this episode, Mac and The Rev engage in a deep and compelling discussion on the nature of God, faith, and belief systems. They delve into the complexities and consequences of viewing God as capricious and explore the idea that traditional conceptions of God passed down through generations can lead to divisiveness and fear-based religion. Through referencing Rob Bell's controversial book, 'Love Wins,' and real-life scenarios, they challenge listeners to consider a more inclusive, loving, and evolving understanding of God. The conversation also addresses the importance of questioning old paradigms, embracing friction as a catalyst for growth, and the transformative power of unconditional love and forgiveness.

    00:00 Introduction and Excitement

    00:10 Exploring Faith and Belief in God

    01:36 Rob Bell's Influence and Controversy

    02:26 The Concept of a Capricious God

    06:16 The Importance of Forgiveness and Love

    07:45 The Dangers of Narrow Beliefs

    11:24 Questioning Traditional Views of God

    16:33 Boundaries of Love

    17:05 Consequences of Actions

    17:54 The Car Accident Analogy

    19:23 Questioning Divine Will

    20:40 Born Blessed, Not Broken

    22:37 The Flow of the Universe

    23:25 Love in Action

    24:50 The Trinity and Capriciousness

    26:48 Awakening to Responsibility

    30:43 The Evolution of Faith

    31:26 Embracing Friction for Growth

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    33 Min.
  • Faith on the Move: Challenging Immigration Boundaries
    Jan 15 2026

    In this episode, Mac and The Rev delve into the complex interplay between faith, specifically Christian faith, and immigration policy in the United States. Acknowledging their own biases, they discuss the friction between social justice, compassion, and obedience to legal authority within the Christian perspective. Using biblical references and historical contexts, they challenge listeners to reconsider their views on immigration while emphasizing the overarching principle of love and compassion in making just decisions. The conversation balances the need for order and justice with the imperative of humane and compassionate treatment of immigrants, urging listeners to pause and reflect on their biases and the true teachings of Christ.

    00:00 Introduction and Bias Acknowledgment

    00:40 Faith and Immigration: A Christian Perspective

    01:58 Social Justice and Resistance within Christianity

    04:37 Questioning Authority and Rules

    09:23 Balancing Compassion and Justice

    12:02 Immigration and Common Ground

    18:36 The Immigration Dilemma

    19:10 Spirituality and Compassion

    20:18 Mutual Accountability and Grieving

    24:02 The Role of Fear and Bias

    25:11 Scriptural Interpretations and Authority

    26:13 Justice, Love, and Consequences

    35:02 Concluding Thoughts on Love and Justice

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    37 Min.
  • New Wine and Wineskins: Going to the Other Side
    Jan 8 2026

    In the first episode of the new year, Mac and the Rev dive into the theme of embracing change and evolution. As they discuss the importance of an open mind and heart at the start of the year, they emphasize the idea of making commitments to inner work and evolving spirituality. The conversation highlights the metaphor of crossing to the other side, recognizing the risks and rewards involved. They advocate for a new renaissance in faith and spirituality, encouraging listeners to challenge outdated beliefs and adopt new perspectives. The episode calls for courage and collective effort to achieve a greater good, inviting everyone to join in this transformative journey for 2026.

    00:00 New Year, New Beginnings

    00:50 Embracing Change and Challenges

    02:51 Journey to the Other Side

    06:18 Spiritual Dissection and Reconstruction

    10:12 Evolving Spirituality and New Perspectives

    13:00 Embracing New Perspectives

    13:29 Thinking Differently

    14:18 Reevaluating Beliefs

    15:44 Navigating Change

    16:24 The Journey of Growth

    20:51 Theological Renaissance

    23:48 Call to Action for 2026

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    27 Min.
  • Beyond Bumper Stickers: The Dynamics of Faith and Power
    Dec 30 2025

    In this episode of Faith and Friction, the hosts delve into the complex intersections of faith with culture, politics, and power. They explore the internal and external frictions that arise when deeply held beliefs are challenged, advocating for openness and dialogue over narrow-minded labeling. The conversation touches on the dangers of certainty, the role of doubt as a catalyst for growth, and the historical manipulation of faith for political and corporate gain. The discussion emphasizes the importance of unity, integrity, and returning to the core intentions of faith and national identity, setting the stage for future episodes on prophetic voices and forgotten foundations.

    00:00 Introduction to Faith and Friction

    00:24 Exploring Fear and Internal Friction

    00:59 Faith vs. Power Dynamics

    02:14 The Problem with Labels

    05:02 The Danger of Certainty

    13:21 The Evolution of Faith and Belief

    16:51 Rallying in Piety

    17:17 Billy Graham's Influence

    17:46 Political Manipulation of Faith

    18:59 Confronting Bias and Racism

    21:07 Creating Friction for Change

    22:19 Prophetic Voices and Perspectives

    24:43 Christian Nationalism and Unity

    27:33 Faith and Integrity

    30:36 Concluding Thoughts and Next Steps

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    32 Min.