Welcome to Cosmic Clowns, a podcast about exploring consciousness, surviving chaos, and finding the comedy in it all. For this episode (sorry, no video this time around—we bow to you, Mercury Retrograde), we are exploring what it means to embrace experimentation over expertise, without completely abandoning being good at some stuff. We talk about the difference between being a guide or a leader, releasing control in the creative process, balancing structure and play. And we are definitely practising what we preach—this episode marks a shift in our process where we are choosing the topic somewhat on the fly (we do have a running list… and are also open to suggestions) and allowing ourselves to speak more freely and, hopefully, creatively. Join us in the experiment!

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Time stamps:

03:28 The Role of Creativity in Our Work

07:23 Exploring the Guide vs. Leader Dynamic

14:26 Releasing Control in Creative Processes

18:24 The Journey of Artistic Exploration

24:19 Shifting from Productivity to Creativity

30:42 Navigating Vulnerability in Creativity

36:06 Balancing Structure and Experimentation

42:29 Creating New Structures for Growth

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Links & Credits

Jocelyn’s Substack: radiate

Sebene’s Substack: remind me to love

Podcast website: www.cosmicclowns.me

Theme music: “Wow” by Charm School