In this MasterMined episode, Mark Scrivner, Jeff Skillen, and Lee Pepper break down what performance-based budgeting really means for behavioral health organizations. From aligning marketing and finance around shared metrics to building budgets from real conversion data—not vibes—this conversation reframes marketing spend as a growth roadmap. Leaders will walk away with practical guidance on accountability, data discipline, and how to plan marketing investments that actually support admissions and capacity.

Key Moments

• 00:00 – Why marketing must claim its seat at the financial table

• 03:29 – Marketing as a revenue engine, not just an expense

• 06:05 – Turning the telescope backwards to build a smarter budget

• 11:51 – Defining "conversion" across the entire funnel

• 14:05 – Using historical data to forecast realistic growth

• 21:38 – Applying a portfolio model to emerging marketing channels

• 23:16 – The "parking lot" method for managing shiny new ideas

• 32:16 – Why delaying your next budget puts you behind

• 37:43 – Reframing budgets as roadmaps, not constraints

Learn More & Connect
Show Notes + Resources: https://snapshotinteractive.com/mastermined
Connect with Mark Scrivner: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markscrivner | https://snapshotinteractive.com
Connect with Jeff Skillen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffskillen | https://www.skillsetenterprises.com
Connect with Lee Pepper: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leepepper | https://www.neveroutmatched.com
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