In this episode of Out of the System, Leo Climaco sits down with Dr. Patty E Mason — immigrant, financial wellness expert, and founder of the upcoming Financial Wellness Academy — to reveal a truth most people never hear:

You don’t have a money problem. You have a survival problem.

Dr. Patty shares how growing up in survival mode as an immigrant child shapes the way people think about money, success, taxes, saving, investing, and even their own self-worth.
Even when people start making money, their nervous system and mindset are still programmed to fear loss — which leads to self-sabotage, bad financial habits, and constant stress.

In this conversation, you’ll learn:

• Why many high earners are still financially unsafe

• How survival mentality creates destructive money patterns

• Why money itself isn’t good or bad — it’s a tool

• How to shift from survival to a thriving mindset

• And how Dr. Patty’s Financial Wellness Academy aims to help families build real financial stability

This episode isn’t about getting rich.
It’s about breaking free from fear, trauma, and financial ignorance — so you can finally build a life that feels safe, stable, and abundant.

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