--Media Links--

website: delvepsych.com

instagram: @delvepsychchicago

youtube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@DelvePsych20⁠

substack: ⁠https://delvepsych.substack.com/⁠

--Participants--

Ali McGarel

Adam W. Fominaya

--Overview of Big Ideas--

A well-meant “How are you feeling today?” can inadvertently become a demand for improvement, loading guilt onto someone who already feels wretched.

The urge to rescue often curdles into frustration: we hate witnessing suffering, so we try to solve it—and then resent the person when they don’t “get better.”

Advice (“go for a walk,” “try a run”) is usually not novel; it can amplify shame by implying the depressed person is simply failing to do the obvious.

A more humane stance is presence without coercion: stop trying to fix, keep trying to care.

Support can be instrumental (doing practical tasks) or emotional (staying close, receptive, and steady).

Sometimes the most restorative help is non-topical connection—rejoining a friend in ordinary togetherness that reawakens identity and belonging.

The episode problematizes tidy, authoritative definitions of “depression,” arguing for humility: clinical models, lay language, and alternative framings can coexist without credential-policing.

--Breakdown of Segments--

Cold open and Delve updates: invite word-of-mouth sharing, reflect on writing barriers, and describe a “small-chunks” approach to blog content (and a future book-shaped compilation).

The viral prompt: react to Matias James Barker’s “don’t text your depressed friends” critique; unpack how check-ins can become reassurance-seeking for the helper.

The advice trap and shame spiral: why suggestions rarely help; reframing “ideas” as curiosity about reasoning; how pushing solutions can externalize and intensify shame.

Low-lift invitations: concrete companionship (movie, s’mores, showing up) that reduces decision-fatigue while preserving the right to decline.

Togetherness as medicine: instrumental vs emotional support; why being-with can heal more than problem-solving; bookshelf anecdote as memorable care.

Limits and self-care for supporters: intentionality, choosing one’s effort, and not extending beyond capacity.

What is “depression,” anyway?: critique of false consensus; respect for plural definitions; perils of ad hominem credential attacks.

Closing reflections: admiration, fallibility, and the gap between intellectualizing solutions and actually living them.

--AI Recommended References (APA)--

American Psychiatric Association. (2022). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (5th ed., text rev.; DSM-5-TR). American Psychiatric Publishing.

Beck, A. T., Rush, A. J., Shaw, B. F., & Emery, G. (1979). Cognitive therapy of depression. Guilford Press.

Hari, J. (2018). Lost connections: Uncovering the real causes of depression—and the unexpected solutions. Bloomsbury Publishing.