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Different with Steve Chalke and Jill Rowe

Different with Steve Chalke and Jill Rowe

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We’d like to introduce you to a new podcast. It’s called Different. But why different?


You know how when you’re wearing sunglasses it puts a tint on everything? Or if you wear glasses you see some things in focus and others out of focus?


Well, we all have lenses on the inside of our head too. And they tint, colour and shape everything we see, think and understand.

So, on this podcast Steve Chalke and Jill Rowe are going to dive headlong into just that as they discover a new ‘meaning making’ story and embrace a fresh way of thinking about life, the universe and everything in-between.

They will talk about getting to a place where we see our lives as part of something bigger than our day-to-day experience - becoming a part of an unfolding story. Finding joy in ordinary moments, facing failure and struggle and discovering liberation and purpose.

They’ll also discuss experiencing life as a gift and learning how to live on purpose. They’ll be peering into dark nights of the soul and finding hope. And simply learning how we are here to walk each home.


We hope you enjoy these conversations – discovering a new story and embracing new thinking.


This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  • People first. Systems second

    People first. Systems second
    Feb 18 2026

    In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about what happens when the computer says no and when process becomes their priority at the expense of their relationships with one another.


    Doing this can make us slow rather than helping us to be nimble, able to flex and, move forward to achieve vision and mission. So together they explore how vital it is that all process and regulation keeps the main thing.


    The main thing the preciousness of every person and their thriving and being willing to buck the system. When this has been forgotten, this feels like a timely conversation, rediscovering our sacred belonging to one another.


    It always matters. For this, we must be courageous.


    Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).


    This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    28 Min.
  • Digging deeper into resilience

    Digging deeper into resilience
    Feb 4 2026

    In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about resilience. They uncover that resilience can be good and bad and can take many forms. So what ultimately matters are the values and beliefs that our resilience is rooted in.


    Ultimately, they can't discuss resilience without talking about our motives that are driving us, they think through what our resilience will look like if it's founded on loving God and loving others as ourselves.

    And in the desire to serve and to give, they recognise that this kind of resilience doesn't just happen, we build it over time through leaning into the struggle and complexity of life.


    This was such an energising and joyous conversation.


    Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).


    This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    28 Min.
  • Becoming a trusted person

    Becoming a trusted person
    Jan 21 2026

    In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about how to become a person who is trusted by others. Trust takes a long time and it's all built on the foundation of good relationship.

    They explore how trust is like money in the bank that we accrue and can spend. And most significantly, they recognise that becoming a trustworthy person means means being authentic, doing what we say we will do, being rooted and motivated by values centred on love and goodness and never self interest.


    Trust is sacred and needs to be handled accordingly. The purpose of trust is to see goodness come in the world.



    Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).


    This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    31 Min.
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