After the first series, some listeners asked for an episode about the host. So, for this last (and longer) episode, Tara is in conversation with the podcast’s editor, the performance poet, skateboarder and film-maker Rydian Cook (https://www.rydcook.com/). Tara and Rydian think about how their very different educations have shaped their attitudes toward poetry. This episode also acts as a commentary on the two series of Demystifying Poetry, making connections between the guests, their work, and their poems.

Creator & Host - Tara Stubbs

Recording, Editing & Producing - Rydian Cook

Funder: The British Academy

In this episode, Tara talks to award-winning poet and academic Dr. Erica McAlpine (https://www.ericamcalpine.com/). Erica shares poems from her latest collection Small Pointed Things, and Tara and Erica talk about a wide range of subjects including contemporary poetry and form, rhyme and comedy, and poetry and (auto)biography. They also discuss Erica’s study The Poet’s Mistake, which identifies errors in the work of poets such as John Keats. They ask why critics go to such efforts to excuse or deny poets’ errors, and wonder why we revere some poets more than others.

Creator & Host - Tara Stubbs

Recording, Editing & Producing - Rydian Cook

Funder: The British Academy

For this episode, Tara discusses how to approach more abstract ideas around poetry with Dr. Nicola Simpson, whose work straddles visual art, poetry and philosophy (https://norwichuni.ac.uk/about-us/meet-our-staff/dr-nicola-simpson). They talk about concrete poetry, sand poetry, and kinetic art; and. they even consider interactions between poetry and yoga. They think about how the poetry world might learn from the art world’s open-mindedness, while keeping the language around poetry accessible and inclusive.

Creator & Host - Tara Stubbs

Recording, Editing & Producing - Rydian Cook

Funder: The British Academy