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Autonomous Weapons Systems - Death by Algorithm

Autonomous Weapons Systems - Death by Algorithm

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A series on autonomous weapons systems, decision support systems, and drones in the military domain. Experts from various disciplines share their research and discuss the black box, responsibility, human-machine interaction, and the future of legal and ethical frameworks for AI in war. How is war regulated? Can the ethics of war be programmed into machines? Does it change how we fight? How can soldiers understand the systems? Will AI systems be the commanders of tomorrow? Why not just let the robots fight? Episodes are narration and interviews and not chronologicalSune With Politik & Regierungen
  • The Analytical Engine feat. Lise Bach Lystlund, Jonas Nygreen, Lauritz Munch & Joshua Hatherley
    Jun 24 2026

    So, why are autonomous weapons systems such a big deal? Aren't they just weapons like the rest of them? Well, the black box problem with algorithmically controlled systems raises challenges different from those of "fire and forget" munitions.

    Four AI experts explain.

    The first part of this episode clarifies what an algorithm is when the black box appears and why it's important.

    The second part clarifies how the data the algorithms rely on can be biased and that constant maintenance and updates do not fix the problem.

    Shownotes:

    Producer and host: Sune With sunewith@cas.au.dk

    Cover art: Sebastian Gram


    References and literature:

    - Algorithmic bias, Wikipedia (Accessed April 8. 2025)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithmic_bias

    - Black Box, Wikipedia (Accessed April 8. 2025)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box

    - Blouin, Lou; Rawashdeh, Samir, March 2023, “AI´s mysterious “black box” problem. Explained”, NEWS University of Michigan-Dearborn (Accessed April 8. 2025)

    https://umdearborn.edu/news/ais-mysterious-black-box-problem-explained

    - Co-Coders (Accessed April 8. 2025)

    https://cocoders.dk/

    - ExekTek (Accessed April 8. 2025)

    https://exektek.com/

    - Hatherley, J. J., 2020, ”Limits of Trust in Medical AI. ” Journal of Medical Ethics, 46(7), 478-481.

    - Hatherley, J., Sparrow, R., & Howard, M. (2024).”The Virtues of Interpretable Medical AI. ” Cambridge Quarterly of Healthcare Ethics, 33(3), 323-332.

    - Hatherley, J. (2025).”A Moving Target in AI-Assisted Decision-Making: Dataset Shift, Model Updating, and the Problem of Update Opacity. ” Ethics and Information Technology, 27, 20.

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10676-025-09829-2 - citeas

    - Hyperight, “The Black Box: What We´re Still Getting Wrong about Trusting Machine Learning Models” (Accessed April 8. 2025)

    https://hyperight.com/ai-black-box-what-were-still-getting-wrong-about-trusting-machine-learning-models/

    - Lystlund, Lise Bach (Accessed April 8. 2025)

    https://cocoders.dk/om-os/

    - Nygreen, Jonas (Accessed April 8. 2025)

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonasnygreen/


    Music: Sofus Forsberg

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    1 Std. und 15 Min.
  • Minotaur Warfare feat. Robert Sparrow
    May 1 2026

    Robert Sparrow is a philosophical pioneer in the field of autonomous weapons. We discuss the current debate and the development since his famous articles "Killer Robots" and "Robots and Respect" were published. We explore the notion of male in se - evil in itself, and Rob presents his idea of Minotaur Warfighting or AI commanders.

    Rob also gives his perspectives on the black box, meaningful human control, programming ethics into machines and the value of fundamental human respect and recognition in war.


    Shownotes:

    Producer and host: Sune With, sunewith@cas.au.dk

    Cover art: Sebastian Gram


    - Dige, Morten, 2012, ”EXPLAINING THE PRINCIPLE OF MALA IN SE”, Journal of Military Ethics, 11:4, 318-332

    - Orend, Brian, 2016, "War", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Spring 2016

    Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.)

    https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/spr2016/entries/war/ - 2.2

    - Scharre, Paul, 2016, ”Centaur warfighting: the false choice of humans vs. Automation”. Temp. Int'l & Comp. LJ, 30, 151-165.

    - Scharre, Paul, 2018, ”Army of none: Autonomous weapons and the future of war”. WW Norton & Company.


    SHAPE, 2025, ”⁠NATO ACQUIRES AI-ENABLED WARFIGHTING SYSTEM”, NATO (Accessed April 14, 2025).

    https://shape.nato.int/news-releases/nato-acquires-aienabled-warfighting-system-

    - Sparrow, Robert, 2016, ”Robots and Respect: Assessing the Case Against Autonomous Weapon Systems”, Ethics & International Affairs, 30, no. 1 (2016), pp. 93-116.

    - Sparrow, Robert, 2007, ”Killer Robots”, Journal of Applied Philosophy, Vol. 24, No. 1, pp. 62-77.

    - Sparrow, Robert, 2021. ”Why machines cannot be moral” AI & Society: Journal of Knowledge, Culture and Communication.

    https://doi.org/10.1007/s00146-020-01132-6.

    - Sparrow, Robert; Henschke, Adam, 2023, ”Minotaurs, Not Centaurs: The Future of Manned-Unmanned”, Parameters 53 (1), The Us Army War College Quarterly, pp. 115-130.

    - Sparrow, Robert, 2012 "ONE, Riskless Warfare Revisited: Drones, Asymmetry and the Just Use of Force". Ethics of Drone Strikes: Restraining Remote-Control Killing, Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press, pp. 10-30.

    https://doi.org/10.1515/9781474483599-004

    - Strawser, Bradley (edi), 2013, ”Killing by remote control -The Ethics of an Unmanned, Military”, Oxford University press.

    - TERMA, 2025, ”Multi-Domain”, (Accessed April 14. 2025)

    https://www.terma.com/products/multi-domain/


    Music: Sofus Forsberg


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    55 Min.
  • The Frontier of Automated Killing feat. Elke Schwarz
    Mar 24 2026
    Is AI just a tool? What is the difference between human cognition and systems logic? How do the automation and routinisation of war change how we fight and think of our enemy? Does Israel's target-generating AI systems work in the war in Gaza, and what is the result so far?Professor of Political Theory Elke Schwarz discusses her research, the black box, meaningful human control, programming ethics into machines, and the future of regulating autonomous weapons systems. Shownotes:Producer: Sune With, sunewith@cas.au.dkCover artwork: Sebastian GramAbraham, Yural, November 30. 2023, “A mass assassination factory: Inside Israels calculated bombing of Gaza”, +972Magazine.https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-calculated-bombing-gaza/ Abraham, Yural, April 3. 2024, “Lavender”:The AI machine directing Israels bombing spree in Gaza, +972Magazine.https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/ Davis, Harry; McKernan, Bentham; Sabbagh, Dan, December 1, 2023, “The Gospel: how Israel uses AI to select bombing targets in Gaza”, The Guardian.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/01/the-gospel-how-israel-uses-ai-to-select-bombing-targets Frankel Pratt, Simon, May 2. 2024, “When AI Decides Who Lives and Dies”, Foreign Policy.https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/05/02/israel-military-artificial-intelligence-targeting-hamas-gaza-deaths-lavender/ Gritten, David, October 9. 2023, “Israel´s military says it fully controls communities on Gaza border”, BBC.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67050127 Guardian, April 3. 2024, “Israel Defence Forces´ response to claims about the use of “Lavender” AI database in Gaza”.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-defence-forces-response-to-claims-about-use-of-lavender-ai-database-in-gaza Krauss, Joseph, February 5. 2025, “Gaza is in ruins, and it´s unclear how it will be rebuilt”, Associated Press.https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-strip-reconstruction-trump-d6a6ff45583b7959403a8615469866d5 McKernan, Bethan; Davies, Harry, 3 April 2024, “The machine did it coldly´:Israel used AI to identify 37.000 Hamas targets. The Guardian.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes No Comment TV, October 9. 2023, “We are fighting human animal”, said Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant” (Accessed March 27. 2025)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbPdR3E4hCk Schwarz, Elke, March 14. 2024, “Devalued Humanity: The Status of Human Life in Times of Nihilistic War”, Opinio Juris.https://opiniojuris.org/2024/03/14/devalued-humanity-the-status-of-human-life-in-times-of-nihilistic-war/ Schwarz, Elke, 2021, “Autonomous Weapons Systems, Artificial Intelligence, and the Problem of meaningful Human Control”, The Philosophical Journal of Conflict and Violence, Vol. V Issue 1. Schwarz, Elke; Renic, Neil, 2023, “Crimes of Dispassion: Autonomous Weapons and the Moral Challenge of Systematic Killing”, Ethics and International Affairs, 37, no. 3, pp. 321-343. Schwarz, Elke, 2018, “Death Machines – The ethics of violent technologies”, Manchester University Press. Schwarz, Elke, April 12. 2024, “Gaza war: Israel using AI to identify human targets raising fears that innocents are being caught in the net”, The Conversation. https://theconversation.com/gaza-war-israel-using-ai-to-identify-human-targets-raising-fears-that-innocents-are-being-caught-in-the-net-227422 UN, OHCHR, November 14. 2024, “UN Special Committee finds Israel´s warfare methods in Gaza consistent with genocide, including use of starvation as weapons of war”, UN. https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israels-warfare-methods-gaza-consistent-genocide UN, UN News, November 22. 2024, “2024 deadliest year ever for aid workers, UN humanitarian office reports”, UN.https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/11/1157371 Music: Sofus Forsberg
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