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Death by Algorithm

Death by Algorithm

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A series on autonomous weapons systems, drones and AI in the military domain. Experts from various disciplines share their research and discuss the black box, responsibility, human-machine interaction, and the future of legal and ethical frameworks for AI in war. How is war regulated? Can the ethics of war be programmed into machines? Does it change how we fight? Can war be cleaned up by technology? How can soldiers understand the systems? Will AI systems be the commanders of tomorrow? Why not just let the robots fight? Episodes are narration and interviews and not chronologicalSune With Politik & Regierungen
  • The Frontier of Automated Killing feat. Elke Schwarz
    Mar 24 2026
    Is AI just a tool? What is the difference between human cognition and systems logic? How do the automation and routinisation of war change how we fight and think of our enemy? Does Israel's target-generating AI systems work in the war in Gaza, and what is the result so far?Professor of Political Theory Elke Schwarz discusses her research, the black box, meaningful human control, programming ethics into machines, and the future of regulating autonomous weapons systems. Shownotes:Producer: Sune With, sunewith@cas.au.dkCover artwork: Sebastian GramAbraham, Yural, November 30. 2023, “A mass assassination factory: Inside Israels calculated bombing of Gaza”, +972Magazine.https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-calculated-bombing-gaza/ Abraham, Yural, April 3. 2024, “Lavender”:The AI machine directing Israels bombing spree in Gaza, +972Magazine.https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/ Davis, Harry; McKernan, Bentham; Sabbagh, Dan, December 1, 2023, “The Gospel: how Israel uses AI to select bombing targets in Gaza”, The Guardian.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/01/the-gospel-how-israel-uses-ai-to-select-bombing-targets Frankel Pratt, Simon, May 2. 2024, “When AI Decides Who Lives and Dies”, Foreign Policy.https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/05/02/israel-military-artificial-intelligence-targeting-hamas-gaza-deaths-lavender/ Gritten, David, October 9. 2023, “Israel´s military says it fully controls communities on Gaza border”, BBC.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67050127 Guardian, April 3. 2024, “Israel Defence Forces´ response to claims about the use of “Lavender” AI database in Gaza”.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-defence-forces-response-to-claims-about-use-of-lavender-ai-database-in-gaza Krauss, Joseph, February 5. 2025, “Gaza is in ruins, and it´s unclear how it will be rebuilt”, Associated Press.https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-strip-reconstruction-trump-d6a6ff45583b7959403a8615469866d5 McKernan, Bethan; Davies, Harry, 3 April 2024, “The machine did it coldly´:Israel used AI to identify 37.000 Hamas targets. The Guardian.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes No Comment TV, October 9. 2023, “We are fighting human animal”, said Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant” (Accessed March 27. 2025)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbPdR3E4hCk Schwarz, Elke, March 14. 2024, “Devalued Humanity: The Status of Human Life in Times of Nihilistic War”, Opinio Juris.https://opiniojuris.org/2024/03/14/devalued-humanity-the-status-of-human-life-in-times-of-nihilistic-war/ Schwarz, Elke, 2021, “Autonomous Weapons Systems, Artificial Intelligence, and the Problem of meaningful Human Control”, The Philosophical Journal of Conflict and Violence, Vol. V Issue 1. Schwarz, Elke; Renic, Neil, 2023, “Crimes of Dispassion: Autonomous Weapons and the Moral Challenge of Systematic Killing”, Ethics and International Affairs, 37, no. 3, pp. 321-343. Schwarz, Elke, 2018, “Death Machines – The ethics of violent technologies”, Manchester University Press. Schwarz, Elke, April 12. 2024, “Gaza war: Israel using AI to identify human targets raising fears that innocents are being caught in the net”, The Conversation. https://theconversation.com/gaza-war-israel-using-ai-to-identify-human-targets-raising-fears-that-innocents-are-being-caught-in-the-net-227422 UN, OHCHR, November 14. 2024, “UN Special Committee finds Israel´s warfare methods in Gaza consistent with genocide, including use of starvation as weapons of war”, UN. https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israels-warfare-methods-gaza-consistent-genocide UN, UN News, November 22. 2024, “2024 deadliest year ever for aid workers, UN humanitarian office reports”, UN.https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/11/1157371 Music: Sofus Forsberg
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  • Teaching Hearts and Minds feat. Lasse Kronborg
    Feb 14 2026

    Why would a military use an autonomous weapons system? What do they bring to the battlefield in Ukraine? Is AI in the military a revolution? And what and why should we teach future officers about tomorrow's weapons systems?

    In addition to giving a hands-on account from within the military, Lasse Kronborg, major at the Royal Danish Defence College, offers his perspectives on the black box, meaningful human control, how machines could be programmed, and what we can expect in the future.


    Shownotes:

    Producer and host: Sune With sunewith@cas.au.dk

    Cover art: Sebastian Gram


    Department of Defense, 2023, “DoD Directive 3000.09 Autonomy in weapons Systems” (Accessed April 2. 2025)

    https://www.esd.whs.mil/portals/54/documents/dd/issuances/dodd/300009p.pdf

    General Assembly, United Nations, December 28. 2023, 78/241 Lethal Autonomous Weapons Systems (Accessed April 2. 2025)

    https://docs.un.org/en/a/res/78/241

    IEEE SA Research Group on Issues of Autonomy and AI in Defense Systems. (2024). ”A Framework for Human Decision Making Through the Lifecycle of Autonomous and Intelligent Systems in Defense Applications”. New York, NY: IEEE SA (Accessed April 2. 2025)

    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10707139

    IEEE Standards Association (Accessed April 2. 2025)

    https://standards.ieee.org/

    Submission of the United States of America, 2023, Resolution 78/241 “Lethal Autonomous Weapons Systems” adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on 22. December 2023 (Accessed April 2. 2025)

    https://docs-library.unoda.org/General_Assembly_First_Committee_-Seventy-Ninth_session_(2024)/78-241-US-EN.pdf

    Music: Sofus Forsberg

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  • Stop the Killer Robots feat. Charlotte Akin
    Jan 16 2026

    Who thinks autonomous weapons systems are a good idea? Well, 250+ NGOs don't. Charlotte Akin, Projects & Logistics Officer from the coalition "Campaign to Stop Killer Robots," explains how the coalition works and its main objections to autonomous weapons. Is there any chance for regulation?

    Besides presenting the campaign's work, Charlotte gives her perspectives on the black box, meaningful human control, programming ethics into robots and the perspectives for regulation.

    Antónoi Guterres and his Holiness Pope Francis have a few words on their own to say on the matter.


    Shownotes:

    Producer and host: Sune With sunewith@cas.au.dk

    Cover artwork: Sebastian Gram


    Antonio Guterres’s speech at the UNSC, December 2024.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YuOC5wQk80

    Automated Decision Team

    https://automatedresearch.org/


    Charlotte Akin, Campaign to Stop Killer Robots

    https://www.stopkillerrobots.org/our-team/

    Mares, Courtney, 2024-07-10, “Pope Francis tells AI leaders: No machine should ever choose to take human life”, EWTN VATICAN.

    https://www.ewtnvatican.com/articles/pope-francis-tells-ai-leaders-no-machine-should-ever-choose-to-take-human-life-3065

    Stop Killer Robots

    https://www.stopkillerrobots.org/

    Stop Killer Robots member organisations.

    https://www.stopkillerrobots.org/a-global-push/member-organisations/

    The Manila Times, 16. June 2024, Pope Francis calls for ban on “lethal autonomous weapons at G7 meeting.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OEKRNA6OMAo

    UN, Antonio Guterres stance on autonomous weapons.

    https://disarmament.unoda.org/the-convention-on-certain-conventional-weapons/background-on-laws-in-the-ccw/

    UN, 2023, different countries’ definitions of autonomous weapons.

    https://docs-library.unoda.org/Convention_on_Certain_Conventional_Weapons_-Group_of_Governmental_Experts_on_Lethal_Autonomous_Weapons_Systems_(2023)/CCW_GGE1_2023_CRP.1_0.pdf

    UN, resolution A/C. I/79/L.77

    https://reachingcriticalwill.org/images/documents/Disarmament-fora/1com/1com24/resolutions/L77.pdf


    Music: Sofus Forsberg

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