In this short chat, Bird bolsters my limited artistic mediums with some real life and crafting arts perspectives as we discuss the famously frustrating gap between skill and taste.

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Bios:

Bird aspires for a career of museum work driven by their deep passion for the overlaps art and the social sciences, leading to their pursuit of a dual degree. They're a jack of all trades textile artist who enjoys exploring every new skill and hobby they can. The true passion behind all this is being able to add beauty into the lives of those around them.

https://www.instagram.com/heavenfullcosplay/

Griffin Ess is a figurative painter with a degree in forensic psychology. His passion is stimulating the creativity of others and connecting folks of various backgrounds and mediums to cross-pollinate their inspirations. His proudest accomplishment is being referred to as a Fairy God Brother.

https://www.shadedareas.com

Important Note:

Referenced in this chat is a "Pottery class study done in the 80s". Griffin's recall was not entirely accurate but here is an excerpt regarding the actual origin:

--This story comes from page 29 of Art & Fear by David Bayles and Ted Orland. In an email conversation with Orland on October 18, 2016, he explained the origins of the story. 'Yes, the 'ceramics story' in 'Art & Fear' is indeed true, allowing for some literary license in the retelling. Its real-world origin was as a gambit employed by photographer Jerry Uelsmann to motivate his Beginning Photography students at the University of Florida. As retold in 'Art & Fear' it faithfully captures the scene as Jerry told it to me—except I replaced photography with ceramics as the medium being explored. Admittedly, it would've been easier to retain photography as the art medium being discussed, but David Bayles (co-author) & I are both photographers ourselves, and at the time we were consciously trying to broaden the range of media being referenced in the text."

In this short chat, Bird brings in fantastic historical and contextual expertise to join Griffin as he explains "Artners" and how to turn your own internal creative side into a helpful collaborator.

Bird aspires for a career of museum work driven by thier deep passion for the overlaps art and the social sciences, leading to thier pursuit of a dual degree. They're a jack of all trades textile artist who enjoys exploring every new skill and hobby they can. The true passion behind all this is being able to add beauty into the lives of those around them.
https://www.instagram.com/heavenfullcosplay/

Griffin Ess is a figurative painter with a degree in forensic psychology. His passion is stimulating the creativity of others and connecting folks of various backgrounds and mediums to cross-pollinate their inspirations. His proudest accomplishment is being referred to as a Fairy God Brother.
https://www.shadedareas.com

Special shoutout to artist Laura Lee Gulledge https://www.whoislauralee.com/ who introduced Griffin to the term artners, an introduction he has clung to and tried to further spread since. (But also an artist whose name escaped him while he was recording the episode)

In this very delayed episode, Archer Ezra Rosenbloom and I are highlighting and digging a little further into some of the key takeaways from the conversations of episodes 6-9.

(The episode was supposed to go up on August 5th but was delayed. Partly due to life but also due to Griffin discovering half the of the conversation was lost at a time that re-recording seemed too difficult to coordinate due to both co-hosts being heavily occupied... but the missing half was eventually tracked down and here we are.)

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Credits:
Music: Douglas Appleman - http://www.Douglas-Appleman.com/
Copyeditor/Proofreader: Reed Floarea - https://www.floareaindexing.com/
Co-Host: Archer Ezra Rosenbloom - https://www.instagram.com/cos_and.effect
Co-Host: Griffin Ess - https://www.shadedareas.com/

Original date of episode publication: August 23rd, 2025