This episode of Chasing Joy is an invitation into a moment most of us recognize but rarely talk about.

Spencer enters the conversation without a script, navigating what it feels like when certainty fades, plans unravel, and the version of yourself that “had it together” no longer fits. Instead of offering answers, he allows the questions to stay open… revealing something quieter, more honest, and human.

For first-time listeners, this episode works as a standalone reflection on identity, pressure, and what we discover about ourselves when we stop performing and start paying attention. There’s humor here, vulnerability, and the kind of clarity that only shows up when someone is willing to sit with discomfort instead of rushing past it.

You don’t need to know Spencer to recognize yourself in this conversation.

You just need to be curious about what happens when you slow down long enough to listen.

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In this episode of Chasing Joy, Wayne explores why uncertainty triggers anxiety, how our nervous systems pull us into autopilot, and why learning to pause is often the first step toward better choices. Through a grounded conversation about breath, awareness, and attention, the episode looks at how presence follows pause… and how that presence gives us access to more thoughtful, intentional responses.

This episode offers a practical reflection on stress, decision-making, and discovering joy not by controlling life, but by meeting it with clarity and awareness.

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In Episode 27 of Chasing Joy, Spencer and Wayne turn the spotlight on their own co-host, Bryan Flores, kicking off a run of episodes where the hosts stop pretending they’re neutral observers and start telling their own stories.

Bryan talks about growing up between worlds, learning early that nothing stays the same, and why uncertainty isn’t something to conquer—it’s something to learn how to surf. The conversation bounces from flow states and surrender to systems, success, and the quiet realization that “making it” doesn’t always feel the way you thought it would.

Along the way, there are laughs, long friendships, backyard epiphanies, questionable road-trip decisions, and at least one story involving saving a naked guy from freezing to death. Because of course there is.

Less advice. More honesty.

This is Chasing Joy… with the hosts finally chasing their own origin stories.

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