Chapter 7, Episode 9

Under women's ministry, the ladies took a bold turn during Covid and started Facebook lives that turned into a Sally Jessy Raphael fever dream. Ladies were loving it and Charlotte signed off on it. So when Tom randomly shows up one recording day, the gals think he will love it. But oh how wrong they were!

In this episode, the ladies discuss how Tom passive aggressively attempted to shut them down, but the magic words of Come As You Are ("God Told Me") allowed them to leave the umbrella of authority of Tom and make the podcast their own.

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Chapter 7, Episode 8

Amanda has been struggling with her place at the church for a while, so she finally makes the decision that if she can't see the vision for Come As You Are that God has given Tom, then she needs to step down from her position in the church. As she puts things in place to step away from ministry, she has her second meeting with Barry. And let's just say, things don't go very well.

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Chapter 7, Episode 7

Charlette is on a mission to make Miss America likeable to the masses right in the middle of Amanda's crusade to make Come As You Are Great Again! These two fronts converge with the push for Miss America to lead a women's ministry event.

For years, the qualifications of what is expected of leaders at Come As You Are have been pushed down the body's throats. Masterlife, Next Steps, serving to the death. The problem? Miss America hasn't done any of those things and has no idea what actually does on in the church. So, what is she wanting to lead and will the ladies just roll over and accept her leadership?

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Chapter 7, Episode 6

Thursday Night Service has been nothing but worship and small groups for a few weeks now and Melissa and Froggy are leading a study. Their plan? Read through the Bible as married couples. A plan that is simple in premise, but difficult in execution. Froggy's grandparents continually try to have deep discussions on Biblical marriage (which is not what the study is about). And Froggy who is supposed to be the leader of the group is relying on Melissa to do all the work and make him look smart and competent. So what happens when Melissa has enough and just decides one night to not prepare anything for Froggy to say?

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Chapter 7, Episode 5

The men have completed the eldership training and are ready to be presented to the body as elders. But there's one glaring issue. There is a clear difference between the men that serve the body that will become elders and those that will become elders that don't serve the body. Also, Tom wasn't planning on seeking the input of the entire church family. In a prayer meeting, Amanda speaks up to bring up red flags in a couple of the men, one of them being Barry. Afterwards, Amanda tries to sit down with Barry to gain clarification in hopes that he will answer her questions and squelch her concerns. But just like everything at Come As You Are, this doesn't go the way she thought it would.

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Chapter 7, Episode 4

With the pandemic, the ladies can't travel up the mountain for retreat in 2020. With many women having pre-paid, Come As You Are needs to come up with something quick before ladies start asking for refunds. The solution? A conference! This will be Melissa's women's ministry debut, leading along side Brandi and Amanda will not be involved at all. Well, at least that was the plan.

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Chapter 7, Episode 3

Join Melissa and Amanda as they discuss Melissa's marriage after Froggy returned from helping his brother during COVID. The time away gives Melissa clarity and she begins to plot her escape. However, she still has to "do church."

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Chapter 7, Episode 2

Tom thought forming an eldership would solve his leadership problems—but instead, it created new ones. These men are about to complete their eldership training and will become official leaders in the church. The problem? Ministries already have leaders. People who’ve been doing the work faithfully for years are now being told they have to answer to someone else.

Enter Tom’s brilliant solution: the Color Levels. A brand-new hierarchy that assigns everyone their place in the pecking order. What could possibly go wrong with reducing years of service, sacrifice, and calling down to a color chart?

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