How can communities move from dependence on institutions to interdependence with one another?

This episode explores how communities can move beyond dependence on institutions and embrace interdependence to create lasting safety and well-being. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss strategies rooted in John McKnight’s asset-based community development model, highlighting the importance of cultivating relationships, building trust, and amplifying neighborhood gifts. Together, they unpack how focusing on goodness, social capital, and shared responsibility transforms both neighborhoods and public safety culture.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:

(03:37) Mike honors John McKnight’s legacy and explains his conviction that neighborhoods themselves can heal when supported with purpose.

(07:11) The importance of listening and understanding when engaging diverse community perspectives.

(09:18) Conversations with city managers and police chiefs about shifting effectiveness metrics from arrests to community self-reliance.

(14:42) Helping neighbors recognize their own gifts, skills, and talents.

(19:57) How initial resistance and frustration from community members can evolve into shared responsibility.

(22:55) Connecting neuroscience to policing

(28:31) How block parties, barbecues, and potlucks build belonging in neighborhoods.

(35:36) Why community engagement and goodness naturally crowd out crime and harmful behaviors.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/

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Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/

New Blue: https://newblue.org/

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local...

What does it look like to embrace citizenship by taking responsibility for safety, instead of leaving it to others?

This episode explores how neighborhoods can move from dependence on police and government toward interdependent, self-reliant models of community safety. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the stewardship mindset, the importance of partnership, and the collective will that transforms neighborhoods. Through lessons from thought leaders and reflections on disasters, the hosts emphasize that lasting safety comes when communities take ownership of their future.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:

(01:00) Redefining Community Safety

* The idea of neighborhoods owning their own safety.

* The shift from patriarchal models of policing to true partnerships with communities.

(10:15) Neighborhoods

* How different neighborhoods evolve at different paces toward self-reliance.

(23:05) From Dependence to Partnership

* Joint accountability, the dangers of unhealthy dependence, and the limits of policing.

(30:01) Disasters and Neighborhood Resilience

* Carol recalls her neighborhood’s experience during a devastating flood and the role of the National Guard.

(41:00) Shared Responsibility

* How collaboration, nurturing, and consistency are the puzzle pieces of lasting safety.

Resources:

* Abundant Community by Peter Block and John McKnight.

* Safety in Our Hands by Peter Block and Mike Butler.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/

New Blue: https://newblue.org/

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect...

How can neighborhoods take ownership of their safety?

This episode continues to explore alternatives to the traditional criminal justice system and how communities can take a leading role in creating safety. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss programs that transformed neighborhoods, addressed mental health and substance use, and reframed domestic violence as a health issue.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:

03:20 – Vision for Change

* How deep listening shaped Mike’s leadership in Longmont, moving away from command-and-control policing.

11:59 – Community Conversations

* Inviting neighborhoods to direct safety efforts.

29:09 – Co-Responder Models

* Addressing mental health, substance abuse, and homelessness.

41:22 – Trauma and Healing

* How trauma multiplies within the justice system and how community-wide involvement reduces domestic violence lethality.

47:37 – Building Sustainable Change

* How Longmont reduced gangs and violent crime.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/

New Blue: https://newblue.org/

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

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