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Between Heat and Hope

Between Heat and Hope

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Between Heat and Hope - a climate litigation podcast for for students, fellow academics, and everyone interested in developments around climate litigation as a tool for propelling necessary climate action. With our guests from legal practice, academia and activism we discuss the most recent developments and shed light on the background, rationale, and theory surrounding the phenomenon.

This podcast forms part of the ERC funded project on climate litigation and democracy. You can find us at: climatelitigation.uva.nl

Clara Kammeringer 2026
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  • Standing at the European Court of Human Rights | with Corina Heri
    Apr 23 2026

    Standing at the European Court of Human Rights

    In this episode of Between Heat and Hope we are join by Professor Corina Heri. Corina Heri is Associate Professor of human rights and climate change at Vrije Universiteit Brussel and Primary Investigator of the TEMPORALAW project. In this capacity she works on human rights law, climate change, the role of courts as well as the role of vulnerability in the law.

    The conversation sets out discussing climate litigation before the European Court of Human Rights and particularly looks at different questions related to access to court and what kind of applicants can and should bring climate cases. Corina walks us through her critique of climate litigation exclusively being brought by associations as flattening the claims that can be made that way. From KlimaSeniorinnen we look to the wider set of climate cases before the ECtHR and discuss how Duarte Agostinho, Greenpeace Nordic, and possible the pending case Müllner v Austria fit into the puzzle and what they tell us about the Court’s approach to the climate crisis. Corina also shares some more structural insights on the functioning of the Court in relation to its narrative of limited resources and how that impacts its treatment of climate cases. Finally, we get a taste of the questions Corina’s new project TEMPORALAW will investigate.

    References

    KlimaSeniorinnen

    Duarte Agostinho

    Greenpeace Nordic

    Müllner v Austria

    Corina Heri, ‘Climate-related vulnerabilities and the European Court of Human Rights: Reimagining victim status through intersectional thinking’ (2025) 38/5 Leiden Journal of International Law, 88.

    TEMPORALAW, Corina Heri PI (funded by the Research Foundation Flanders, Odysseus scheme)

    Recommendations

    Sunaura Taylor, Beasts of Burden: Animal and Disability Liberation (The New Press, 2017).

    Law at the End of the World (Podcast)

    About

    Editing: Simon Waswa

    Music: “Delayed Flight” by Michael Ramir C. via mixkit

    Recorded at the University of Amsterdam, April 2026

    The LitDem Project

    This project has received funding from the European Research Council (ERC) under the European Union's Horizon 2020 research and innovation programme (grant agreement n° 101125511).

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    27 Min.
  • A Law and Political Economy Approach to Climate Litigation | with Ioannis Kampourakis
    Apr 9 2026

    A Law and Political Economy Approach to Climate Litigation

    In this episode, Ioannis Kampourakis, Associate Professor at Erasmus University Rotterdam and co-director of the Law and Political Economy (LPE) in Europe project joins Rena Hänel, PhD researcher at the University of Amsterdam, to talk about what is to be learned from applying a Law and Political Economy lens to climate litigation.

    The episode begins with Ioannis describing the theoretical foundations of Law and Political Economy as a stream of legal scholarship that emphasizes the law as being constitutive of markets and the economy more generally. He then applies these insights to explain both how law has helped to create and sustain unsustainable economic patterns at the root of the climate crisis, and how climate litigation could harness the transformative potential of the law by focusing on what he calls structural enablers of economic power.

    The conversation then turns to the practical work that the LPE in Europe project is doing with civil society organizations engaged in strategic litigation, including climate litigation, to integrate insights from scholarship into their legal strategies. In the end, Ioannis and Rena discuss ideas for potential future case strategies that could address the climate crisis as part of a wider "polycrisis" of climate change, widening economic inequality and wars, among others.

    References

    LPE in Europe Project

    Urgenda

    Milieudefensie v Shell

    Lliuya v RWE

    Workshop: Advancing a Law and Political Economy Approach to Strategic Litigation, LPE in Europe (2024)

    Recommendations

    Ilias Alami and Adam D. Dixon, The spectre of state capitalism (Oxford University Press, 2024).

    Thea Riofrancos, Extraction: The frontiers of green capitalism (WW Norton & Company, 2025).

    David McDermott Hughes, Who Owns the Wind?: Climate crisis and the hope of renewable energy (Verso Books, 2021).

    About

    Editing: Martyna Durlik, Clara Kammeringer

    Music: “Delayed Flight” by Michael Ramir C. via mixkit

    Recorded at the University of Amsterdam, February 2026

    The LitDem Project

    This project has received funding from the European Research Council (ERC) under the European Union's Horizon 2020 research and innovation programme (grant agreement n° 101125511).

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    43 Min.
  • Corporations, Climate Change & Human Rights | with Evelyne Schmid
    Mar 23 2026

    Corporations, Climate Change & Human Rights

    For this episode of Between Heat and Hope we are joined by Professor Evelyne Schmid. Evelyne Schmid is a professor of international law at the University of Lausanne, where she is an expert in human rights. Her work focuses, among other things on corporate conduct and the safe and just operating space of humanity within the environment.

    In this episode, we discuss with Evelyne the ongoing Swiss case of Asmania et al. brought by four plaintiffs from the Indonesian island of Pari against cement producer and major emitter Holcim. From the role of human rights in this case, we move to a wider discussion on applying human rights regimes to corporate conduct, the role of corporations in the climate crisis and attempts of regulating corporate conduct through social responsibility and sustainability due diligence schemes. Throughout the episode Evelyne, teases out why it is important to also litigate against corporations and not just against states. She discusses the impact corporate conduct has on emissions and the power corporations hold in the international system, as well as the consensus in the international community that corporations have to be actively engaged in the green transition.

    References

    Evelyne Schmid

    Asmania et al. vs Holcim

    ICJ AO on climate change

    Richard Heede, ‘Tracing anthropogenic carbon dioxide and methane emissions to fossil fuel and cement producers’, 1854–2010. Climatic Change 122, 229–241 (2014).

    Carbon Majors Website

    Recommendations

    Center for International Environmental Law

    Professor Sundhya Pahuja on ‘Metastatic Legality: Companies, States and the Spread of European Law’, 26 March 2026

    About

    Editing: Simon Waswa

    Music: “Delayed Flight” by Michael Ramir C. via mixkit

    Recorded at the University of Amsterdam, March 2026

    The LitDem Project

    This project has received funding from the European Research Council (ERC) under the European Union's Horizon 2020 research and innovation programme (grant agreement n° 101125511).

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    30 Min.
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