In this rare, intimate conversation, Jan Schlichtmann — the famed attorney behind A Civil Action — joins Carl Taylor to discuss the philosophical and emotional legacy of his landmark case in Woburn, Massachusetts.

But this is not another rehash of courtroom strategy. Instead, we explore the inner life of a lawyer who risked everything in pursuit of justice, and who continues to grapple with the moral and cultural questions that case raised — not just about law, but about America.

We talk about:

• Why litigation is rarely the best option for those confronting legal issues.
• The emotional cost of the law.
• The need for justice in our legal system.
• Whether the legal system can still serve moral ends
• His evolving view of fame, legacy, and human dignity
• Why storytelling matters more than ever in the age of AI

If you care about justice, narrative, and the human spirit behind the law, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss.

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How does a lawyer build a multi-million dollar firm from a home mortgage and a dream? In this episode, Carl sits down with Terry Lyons, one of New Jersey's most innovative family law attorneys, to deconstruct the anti-sludge playbook she used to build a nationally recognized enterprise.

Discover the counterintuitive strategies that became her engine for growth, from launching the state's first legal app to creating unique staff titles like "Captain of First Impressions." This is a masterclass in rejecting commoditization, understanding the deep psychology of your clients, and building a powerful, values-driven culture that wins.

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If your like most law firms, your monthly legal marketing retainer isn't an investment; it's a tax. In this episode, Books for Experts founder Carl Taylor helps you perform an audited accounting of the "Sludge Tax"—the devastating financial, operational, and reputational costs your law firm pays for its reliance on outdated SEO and PPC.

Discover the true price of "renting" visibility, how low-value clients poison your referral pool and burn out your best staff, and why every dollar spent on sludge is a dollar stolen from your legacy. This is the clear-eyed analysis you need to stop paying the tax and start building permanent, unshakeable authority in the new AI referral economy.

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