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  • Dreamers & Lovers Valentine's Day
    Feb 14 2026

    The night before Valentine’s Day, artists gathered at SOMA Arts to talk about saving the San Francisco art scene.

    It felt less like a policy meeting and more like couples therapy.


    In this special Art Yap episode, Shawna asks three simple questions:
    When did you fall in love with the SF arts ecosystem?
    What broke your heart?
    And why are you still here?


    From naked violinists in backyard performances to the grief of losing beloved venues and institutions, Dreamers & Lovers captures a city mid-reckoning. Artists reflect on open studios, weirdo energy, long-distance devotion, peanut butter budgets, and the stubborn belief that art is not ornamental — it’s essential.


    At the center of the night is a reminder: grief is a clearing. And if we hold our anger too tightly, our hands aren’t free to build.


    This episode is a love letter to the Bay Area arts community — flawed, fickle, resilient, and still here.


    Happy Valentine’s Day.

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    16 Min.
  • 14 - Lauren Frankel, From Musicology to Cultural Futures
    Nov 21 2025

    Today on Art Yap, I’m talking with someone whose mind seems to run on two beautifully interwoven tracks — sharp, crystalline analysis and expansive creative instinct. Lauren Frankel is a musicologist-turned-nonprofit-arts-worker-turned-data-nerd-turned-cultural-strategist, and honestly? She’s one of the most interesting arts workers I’ve talked to in a long time. She loves spreadsheets and opera with equal devotion. She brings order to artistic chaos without ever dulling it. She’s a systems thinker who never forgets the humans inside the system.

    I first encountered Lauren’s work live at a San Francisco Arts Commission community meeting and the more I learned, the more fascinated I became: her path moves from a scrappy performing-arts high school to studying music history at Yale, to working with the Kronos Quartet, to leading audience insights and impact evaluation at YBCA — all the way to her current role at AMS Planning, where she helps arts organizations and cities think about their cultural futures with intention and clarity.

    Her doctoral research dives into how nonprofit structures literally shape the music we hear today — not metaphorically, but structurally, financially, artistically. And her consulting work now lets her zoom all the way out again, looking at systems, communities, buildings, behaviors, and possibilities.

    In this episode, we talk about growing up creative; discovering musicology through a Women in Music class her piano teacher encouraged her to take; finding herself inside the very nonprofit structures she once studied; doing on-the-ground impact work during the pandemic; and what it feels like to help organizations design futures that give creativity room to thrive.

    Let’s get into it.

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    54 Min.
  • 13 - RMK, Painting with Ghosts
    Sep 26 2025

    In this episode of Art Yap, I sit down with Richard Koscher (RMK)--artist, filmmaker, creative director, and bold experimenter--whose newest project GHOSTS OF THE ICE asks us to look directly at what's disappearing. Using thermochromatic paint and custom-engineered frames, RMK creates artwork that literally vanishes with heat--mirroring the way climate change is quietly erasing the world around us.

    We talk about lost masterpieces, AI in art, raising creative kids, and why sometimes, making something vanish is the most powerful statement an artist can make.

    This episode is for anyone using creativity to navigate complexity--where imagination isn't an escape, but a strategy.

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    35 Min.
  • 12 - Connie Wurz (formerly Connie Wood), at SFO Museum design is everywhere
    Aug 22 2025

    Today’s guest is Connie Wurz (formerly Connie Wood), Curator in Charge of Graphic Design at the SFO Museum—and someone whose work quietly shapes how millions of people experience art and information every day.


    Connie’s design work isn’t just beautiful—it’s empathetic. It meets people where they are: in motion, in stress, in transit. Whether it’s a traveler sprinting to a gate or someone pausing for a quiet moment in an airport terminal, her contributions to exhibitions make space for curiosity and reflection.


    In this conversation, we talk about storytelling through design, how to build for diverse audiences, and how all the details matter and design is EVERYWHERE.


    Connie’s path—from her early love of photography, typography and wallpaper, to designing for one of the most unique museums in the world—is a masterclass in care, clarity, and creative leadership.

    Let’s get into it.

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    47 Min.
  • 11 - Jackie von Treskow, Fringe Signal, Civic Scale
    Aug 15 2025

    Today’s guest is Jackie von Treskow, Senior Program Manager for Public Art at the San Francisco Arts Commission.

    Jackie’s journey into the arts wasn’t a straight line—it involved mythical Asheville forests, fringe pirate radio, writing hard for SF from LA in a master’s program, and non-profit hustle.

    We talk about what it really means to make art public, how monuments shape our collective memory, and why humor and empathy matter as much as policy and process.

    If you’ve ever wondered who decides what art gets built in your city—or how those decisions get made—this one pulls back the curtain with warmth, humor, and a dose of radical honesty.

    Let’s get into it.

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    42 Min.
  • 10 - Raquel Espana & Daly City's Peninsula Book Collaborative
    Aug 1 2025

    “A room without books is like a body without a soul." And honestly… a mall without art or bookstores? Same energy.

    Today we’re heading into Daly City’s Westlake Shopping Center—yes, my childhood stomping grounds—for a conversation about how community spaces can transform not just a neighborhood but a whole way of life. I’m joined by Raquel Espana, founder of the Peninsula Book Collaborative, a nonprofit bookstore and literary hub that’s making books, culture, and community connection accessible to North San Mateo County. We talk about starting from pop-ups, turning bookstores into living rooms, and why arts and culture are what’s saving our malls. Oh, and we get the eight ball’s blessing for their big fall fundraiser—so you know it’s gonna be good. Let’s get into it.

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    20 Min.
  • 9 - Tina Wiley Crawford, Art Jobs Inside
    Jul 25 2025

    This week’s guest is Tina Wiley Crawford, recruitment manager at the Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco. She is also a talented graphic designer, a champion for youth programs, and—by her own words—a Swiss Army knife of skills.

    In this episode, we talk about why claiming “artist” can feel weird, why thank-you notes still matter, and how to get your foot in the door—without selling your soul or starving. Plus, we talk cake decorating, cool tables, and how field trips actually change lives.

    You’ll laugh, you’ll get inspired, and maybe you’ll shoot your shot at that arts job you’ve been eyeing.

    Please support ART YAP by rating and reviewing.

    Let’s get into it.

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    40 Min.
  • 8 - Deborah Munk & Bryan Keith Thomas, What Keeps
    Jul 18 2025

    In this week’s episode I head down to the dump to trash talk...pardon me, talk trash with Deborah Munk, who’s been running the Artist in Residence program at Recology San Francisco for over 25 years, and Bryan Keith Thomas, an incredible artist, educator, and deep thinker about materials, memory, and community.

    We talk about how trash becomes treasure, how art can teach sustainability through storytelling, and the surprising ways objects hold history. There’s stories about found mirrors, lost objects, 19th-century heirlooms, and fourth graders learning to see garbage differently.

    If you’ve ever wondered what stories live inside the things we throw away—this episode is for you.

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    34 Min.