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AND/BOTH Podcast - Real Conversations, Shared Experiences, and the Community You've Been Missing

AND/BOTH Podcast - Real Conversations, Shared Experiences, and the Community You've Been Missing

Von: Dr. Ashley Blackington
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 Hear from moms in all different scenarios doing their absolute best to honor themselves as individuals in a world that would prefer, as mothers, we not. ⁠ ⁠ Hear from moms who are trying to figure out what that "something" is after the life altering transition into motherhood.⁠ ⁠ Hear from moms that say "I know I need to do something for myself and this is what it is, but it feels impossible to do it"⁠ ⁠ What is the AND/BOTH that you are juggling with motherhood? Career, hobbies, entrepreneurship, new identity, new activities, new passions and interests?⁠© 2025 AND/BOTH Company, LLC Beziehungen Elternschaft & Familienleben Hygiene & gesundes Leben Seelische & Geistige Gesundheit Sozialwissenschaften
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  • 121. Death Doesn't Happen Like It Does in the Movies with Death Doula Jade Adgate

    121. Death Doesn't Happen Like It Does in the Movies with Death Doula Jade Adgate
    May 1 2026
    Everyone dies. And yet most of us have no idea what dying actually looks like — because we’ve been shielded from it, and because everything we’ve seen on screen is wrong.Jade Adgate is a death doula, educator, and founder of Farewell Fellowship in Middle Tennessee. She’s spent years walking alongside families at end of life — not as a tour guide, but as a fellow traveler — and she’s on a mission to normalize the experience of death so that fewer people have to face it completely unprepared.In this conversation, Ashley and Jade cover a lot of ground: the real dying process versus what we expect it to be, how we live is how we die, the role of control in caregiving, what those extended months of treatment are actually buying us, and what it looks like to bring sacredness back to the end of life — even when it’s messy and ordinary and nothing like the movies.In This EpisodeHow Jade got into death doula work- from Hurricane Katrina, to moving in with her great-aunt Sis, to hospice volunteeringThe parallel between parenting teenagers and supporting families at end of life, both require learning to hold while letting goHow death became less ordinary and why that’s a tragedyThe idea that modern medicine has learned to extend dying, not just lifeQuality versus quantity: what people think they’re buying with treatment versus what they’re actually gettingRoxanne: the client who tried to control every detail of her own death, and what Jade learned from herAdeline: a pediatric client who died just before her fifth birthday, and the home funeral that gave her family something differentWhy 90% of people end up in a hospital bed at end of life and why that matters to knowWhat actually happens in the hours after someone dies and why slowing down is the most important thing a death doula doesThe gap between the Forrest Gump death scene and realityHow Jade protects herself in this work as a self-described recovering codependent eldest daughterThe future of death doula work, bringing these tools into communities and families who can’t access a professionalQuotes From This Episode“How we live is how we die. Who we are is who we are when we’re dying.”— Jade Adgate“If we are going to buy more time, can we know at the beginning that this is the time we’re buying? It starts right now — instead of we’re going to do all these treatments and then start our time when you’re feeling better.”— Jade Adgate“Death is the teacher. As much as I think I might know, it is totally different for every single person.”— Jade Adgate“This is not wisdom that needs a gatekeeper. This is all of our collective wisdom.”— Jade Adgate“There are no monsters around corners if you know where all the corners are.”— Ashley BlackingtonResources & LinksFarewell Fellowship (in-person doula services, education & library): farewellfellowship.comInstagram: Farewell LibraryBook referenced: Gone From My Sight — Barbara CarnesShow referenced: Dying for Sex (Hulu)Connect with Ashley:Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comPodcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/Dovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @mydovetail.appLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/
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    1 Std. und 3 Min.
  • 120. I Didn't Lose Myself in Motherhood. I Never Found Myself Before It with Libby Ward. April roundtable with Erin Holland.

    120. I Didn't Lose Myself in Motherhood. I Never Found Myself Before It with Libby Ward. April roundtable with Erin Holland.
    Apr 17 2026
    Libby Ward built one of the internet’s most recognizable platforms for honest motherhood, and she did it by saying the things most moms were too afraid to say out loud. Now she’s put it all in a book: Motherhood: On Losing My Mind and Finding Myself, published by Crown.In this co-hosted episode, Ashley and Erin sit down with Libby to trace the full arc, from the small town church community where motherhood was put on a pedestal, to the postpartum rage that finally broke her open, to the sociology class that reframed everything, to going viral on TikTok during a pandemic, to writing a book for Crown that she nearly wrote as someone else entirely.It’s a conversation about what happens when women stop doing everything for everyone else and start asking who they actually are, and why that question so often doesn’t get asked until something breaks.In This EpisodeWho Libby was before TikTok- a 26-year-old in a conservative church community trying to be every kind of mom at onceHow her second child’s higher needs broke the plate-spinning and sent her to therapy for the first timeWhy her postpartum depression showed up as rage, not sadness and why that made it harder to recognize and nameThe shame spiral of “what is wrong with me” and the therapy session that cracked it openThe sociology of sex and gender class that introduced her to the mental load, default parenting, and feminismFinding TikTok during the pandemic and posting as a form of dissociation, not really believing anyone would find herThe moment she stopped making humor content and decided she didn’t want to joke about things that were crushing her soulGoing no contact with her mom and how that coincided with the book deal coming throughThe writing process: imposter syndrome, a pivot away from research-heavy writing, and learning to trust her own storytellingWhy she didn’t lose herself in motherhood, she never found herself before itDoing it guilty: why waiting to feel ready or unashamed means never changing anythingWhat “honest motherhood” actually means and why it starts internally, not out loudQuotes From This Episode:“I didn’t lose myself in motherhood. I actually never found myself or knew myself when I was younger. Motherhood was the catalyst to help me find the self I never knew before motherhood even began.”— Libby Ward“It’s not that I’m exhausted because I’m not enough. It’s that the load is too much for any one person. That shift is so important.”— Libby Ward“How do you get rid of the guilt and shame? You just do it guilty. You do it feeling a little bit ashamed. And then you’re retraining your brain — actually, we survived. Actually, it’s okay.”— Libby Ward“I am so tired of women being the butt end of jokes. I no longer want to joke about the things that are crushing my soul.”— Libby Ward“You deserve to be well just for the mere fact that you’re a person who deserves to be well. Your kids just happen to benefit from that.”— Libby WardAbout the BookMotherhood: On Losing My Mind and Finding Myself by Libby Ward is available now wherever books are sold — Amazon, Indigo, and most major retailers.Find LibbyWebsite: libbyward.comInstagram: @libbywardTikTok: @libbywardofficialConnect with Ashley:Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comPodcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/Dovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @mydovetail.appLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/
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    1 Std. und 8 Min.
  • 119. The Mental Load Nobody Names: Reparenting Yourself While Raising Someone Else with Michelle Gibson

    119. The Mental Load Nobody Names: Reparenting Yourself While Raising Someone Else with Michelle Gibson
    Apr 3 2026

    What does it mean to break a cycle when you’re still inside it? Michelle Gibson is a psychotherapist, CEO of Gibson and Associates and the Nest Collective, and a mom of one, and she has spent her career helping people find language for experiences they were never taught to name.

    In this conversation, Michelle and Ashley cover a lot of ground: childhood trauma and the path into psychotherapy, the complicated terrain of parent estrangement, why adverse childhood experiences are disproportionately common in entrepreneurs, and what it looks like to lead a business and a family, from a place of genuine self-connection rather than survival mode.

    It’s an honest, warm, and unexpectedly funny conversation about doing the work while also just trying to get dinner on the table.


    In This Episode

    1. How Michelle’s childhood (alcoholism, trauma, adverse childhood experiences) led her to psychotherapy
    2. The magnetic effect of finding language for what you’ve been through
    3. Why social-emotional learning in schools is changing what middle school looks like for kids today
    4. Reparenting yourself while parenting someone else — and the double labor that involves
    5. The rise of estrangement from parents and what’s driving it
    6. Michelle shares her own experience estranging from her father — and why having a daughter changed the calculation
    7. Ashley shares her own experience with estrangement
    8. Why entrepreneurs so often come from hard childhoods — grit as a survival response
    9. The moment Michelle looked up from years of grind and realized she’d been in survival mode her whole life
    10. What it means to lead from a heart-led place versus a fear-led one
    11. The privilege of support — naming it honestly so other parents don’t compare their back end to someone else’s front end
    12. “Your parents’ ceiling is your floor” — and how Michelle thinks about expanding that for her daughter


    Resources & Links

    1. Gibson and Associates: gibsoncounselling.ca
    2. The Nest Collective: thenestcollective.ca
    3. Email: michelle@gibsoncounselling.ca or michelle@thenestcollective.ca
    4. Find Michelle on LinkedIn


    Connect with Ashley:

    Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.com

    Podcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/

    Dovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822

    Instagram: @mydovetail.app

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/
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