In this episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Braman interviews Cassandra Ong, founder of Otter Half marketing agency. Cassandra shares her experience of being laid off, which led her to start her own business. They discuss the creation of Ottie's Fishy Business, a marketing card game for kids, and the challenges and successes of running her own agency. Additionally, Cassandra talks about the differences between working in startups and MNCs, the importance of work-life balance, and how building a personal brand on LinkedIn has opened new doors for her professionally. The conversation also delves into the personal aspects of navigating work and family life, especially as a mother and business owner.

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00:00 Introducing the Podcast and Today's Guest

02:00 Cassandra Ong's Marketing Card Game for Kids

08:56 Transitioning from Startups to MNCs

15:43 Navigating Career Challenges and Layoffs

21:54 Starting Otter Half: Overcoming Self-Doubt

25:02 Navigating Sales and Real Business Challenges

34:37 Balancing Work and Family Life

38:48 Looking Ahead: Future Goals and Aspirations