The wives are tired. The husbands are tired. The internet pop-psychology that removes the nuance of our full-humanity as it doles out relationship advice, is tired. Our relationships that are fraught with power dynamics, unspoken expectations, and dated af rules, are tired.

In this episode, Kate & Ruby dive into the heart of relationships, not just the surface labels of it all. The hot take of being a good wife is that it's not about becoming better at playing a role in your marriage, it's about becoming more of who you already are.

There's a hot game of FMK at the end of this episode too featuring some of the internet's favorite men with microphones: Tim Ferris, Joe Rogan, and Andrew Huberman.

The Duality Project is Ruby & Kate’s umbrella for their work in honest, community-rooted growth. Think: real-talk education, coaching, and community that refuse shame and quick-fix hustle. It’s about holding both/and: your tenderness and your power, discipline and rest, individuality and interdependence... so you can choose what actually serves you.

• Heartland (their online community): monthly group calls, optional 1:1 coaching, and friendly 30-day micro-challenges to practice self-study in five minutes a day. aka: low-pressure reps for real life.

• Follow along: @thedualityproject (plus @life.with.ruby and @moore_kate).

• Get the book: My Self Study Practice Guided Workbook and Journal