Business & BullSh** Part 3: The Mud and Ugly Side of Pitching Investors with Leah Williams
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In this episode of The Un-Traditional Entrepreneur Podcast, host Juming Delmas sits down with Leah Williams, a pitch deck strategist and designer, for a real conversation about what it actually takes to pitch investors.
This episode strips away the glamor around venture capital and angel investing and gets into the harder truth: investors are not funding dreams, ideas, or excitement alone. They want proof. Leah breaks down why founders need traction, paying customers, a working beta, and a clear understanding of their business before approaching serious capital.
Juming and Leah also explore the different types of pitch decks entrepreneurs need to understand, including teaser decks, reading decks, and presentation decks. Leah explains how each one serves a different purpose, from getting the first meeting to supporting a deeper investor review to guiding a live pitch. For founders who think one generic deck is enough, this episode delivers a much-needed wake-up call.
The conversation also gets practical about the cost of creating a professional pitch deck. Leah explains why founders should expect to invest real money into the process, with professional decks ranging from around $1,500 to $12,500 depending on the startup’s stage, complexity, and funding goals. The episode also touches on the importance of speaking the language investors expect, including financial structure, market opportunity, growth potential, and the kind of clarity venture capitalists are trained to look for.
Another major theme is timing. Leah and Juming discuss why early-stage founders should not rush into investor conversations before they are ready. Instead, they talk about when to bootstrap, when to rely on friends and family, and how accelerators, incubators, and local support programs can help founders prepare for larger funding opportunities.
This episode is a blueprint for entrepreneurs who want to raise capital the right way. Whether you are building your first startup, preparing for a seed round, or trying to understand what investors actually want to see, this conversation gives founders a clearer picture of the mud, pressure, preparation, and discipline behind pitching for funding.
Connect with Leah Williams at leahcatherine.com.
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