Up on a hill in Greenwich Park, you can see all of London laid out below you - The Shard, Canary Wharf, the Thames - millions of people heading to work. For Kirsten Hurley, that view is a daily reminder of what is possible. And of how much the world loses when it fails to support its carers.

Kirsten Hurley is the founder of Better Leaders Consulting and a former MD who built a team of 30+ consultants across Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. She also happens to be a sibling carer for her two severely autistic twin brothers.

In this episode, Kirsten tells us what happens when the mental load of caring becomes unsustainable alongside a high-pressure leadership role - and what it takes to build something new on the other side of that.

In this episode we cover:

- Why 600 people leave employment every single day because of caring responsibilities
- The real difference between coaching, mentoring, and training - and why it matters which one you reach for
- Why "experiment" beats "transformation" every time you are trying to change
- What has quietly regressed in the world of DEI - and what the language we use at work reveals
- The living company handbook that let anyone in the business raise an issue
- What it really costs a business when the high performer is also carrying an invisible load at home

Kirsten's C-Word is CARING.
Find Kirsten on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hurleykirsten/
Kirsten's company Better Leaders Consulting: https://www.linkedin.com/company/better-leaders-consulting
Carers UK: https://www.carersuk.org
Employers for Carers: https://www.employersforcarers.org

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Chapters:
00:00 - Welcome to Three Founders Walk Into A...
02:20 - Kirsten's Place: Greenwich Park In Spring
05:57 - From Salesperson To MD To Founder - Kirsten's Career Story
08:35 - Being A Carer Alongside A Leadership Role
09:18 - Building A Team Of 30 Across EMEA
14:22 - What She Has Learned About Replenishing Your Batteries
22:43 - Wankonomics Comedians about Company Values
29:33 - Her Clients - Women In Tech And Fintech Sales Teams
34:00 - Women In The Room - What Has Changed And What Hasn't
36:31 - The Language We Use In Job Descriptions (And Why It Matters)
41:12: - 600 People Leave Work Every Day Because Of Caring
- The C-Word: CARING

Three Founders Walk Into A... is hosted by Helen Wingrove-Sanders (HFBAC) and Emma Campbell (The Coaching Point).

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