Hosted by Marius SUP

🎙️ New Episode – Entrepreneurship, Systemic Work & The Power of Listening with Ivan

In this episode, I’m in conversation with Ivan, co-founder of Shift Intelligence.

We explored his entrepreneurial journey the transitions, the growth phases, and the inner shifts required when building and scaling a company. Ivan shared openly about what founders face when success demands a new level of maturity.

A central theme of our dialogue was the systemic approach in business. We spoke about how family constellation principles can reveal hidden dynamics inside organizations, how founders often recreate unconscious patterns, and why organizational constellations offer insights that traditional strategy sometimes misses.

We also touched on the new generation of leaders their openness to systemic thinking and the responsibility that comes with building conscious businesses.

One key idea stood out:

Developing the skill of listening.

You know what you know.

But you don’t know what others know.

About the host

Marius SUP is Systemic Advisor and the author of several books exploring human systems, leadership, and inner transformation.

His work focuses on lived experience rather than methodology.

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Disclaimer

This podcast is a space for conversation and reflection.

The content does not constitute professional, therapeutic, or medical advice.

Each listener is responsible for how they receive and integrate what is shared.