At Least It’s Almost Over: Songwriting, Screenwriting & Jacob the Horse With Aviv Martin Rubenstein
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In this episode of Plot Twist Radio, Erin sits down with Aviv Martin Rubenstein, singer, guitarist, and lyricist of Jacob the Horse, for a wide-ranging conversation about creativity, structure, and surviving the long haul of making art.
Aviv shares the unlikely origin story behind the band’s name, what it really takes to keep a band together for over a decade, and how his work as a screenwriter and screenwriting instructor deeply influences the way he writes songs. From invisible structure and unresolved endings to why “thinking about writing” still counts as writing, this episode dives into the craft behind the music.
They also discuss Jacob the Horse’s upcoming album, At Least It’s Almost Over, the process of resurrecting songs from the vault, and making art in a world that often feels like it’s on fire.
✨ Plus: Erin debuts an exclusive early sound bite from a brand-new Jacob the Horse song dropping later this month.
Listen in for sharp insights, dry humor, creative honesty—and a sneak peek you won’t hear anywhere else.
Where you can find Aviv and Jacob The Horse:
jacobthehorse.com
