Midlife isn’t the end of the story, it’s the chapter where something new wants to begin.In this episode of Midlife Chrysalis, Chip Conley sits down with Pam McLean, pioneering coach, co-founder of the Hudson Institute of Coaching, and a guiding voice on adult development and the “bonus years.”

Together, they explore why midlife isn’t about stepping back, but about letting go and moving forward with intention.

Pam shares:

• Why releasing old identities is essential for growth
• What the “bonus years” make possible at any age
• How Life Forward helps reframe change as opportunity
• Why discomfort, grief, and curiosity are part of becoming
• What truly makes a great coach — in life and in leadership

This is a warm, thoughtful conversation for anyone standing at a crossroads and wondering what comes next. Watch now and discover how midlife can become a powerful new beginning.

Timestamps:

03:32 Pam’s early life and background

04:17 From clinical psychology to coaching

07:06 How coaching has developed

09:31 Life Forward and Hudson Institute

11:46 The midlife happiness curve

14:53 Cancer as a life teacher16:06 Hudson Institute and MEA connection

18:08 Letting go of old identities

21:50 Navigating major life transitions

26:27 Why experimentation matters

27:39 Men vs women in midlife

31:01 What makes a great coach

33:47 Why people choose coaching

35:15 Gender balance in coaching35:51 Coaching in the age of AI

38:20 How to choose the right coach

40:38 Creativity later in life

42:41 Wisdom bumper sticker

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