Slam the Gavel welcomes back Debbie Carroll to the podcast accompanied by Lindsey Shaffer. Debbie was last on the podcast Season 5, Episodes 167, 180 and 236; Season 6, Episode 327. Debbie discussed the Memorandum Of Procedure (MOP) and its disgusting implications along with the hard facts of foster care.

Lindsey discussed her history that she and her spouse had a baby girl 5-18-2104, but her spouse decided to move back in with his parents and brothers who were volatile. Lindsey didn't want to live with these brothers and she contacted CPS to see if they could offer other options such as housing. As a result her daughter was removed on 10-16-2015. Trying to find her way through what had unfolded with CPS and a certain caseworker, Lindsey wrote two books,"The Missing," and "Imperium Conflictus." These books can be found on Amazon, Google Play and Pay Hip.

To Reach Debbie Carroll: carrolldebbie73@yahoo.com or considerationnonprofit.org

To Reach Lindsey Shaffer: motivatedirishangel42@yahoo.com

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