What’s Really Ruling You. How Your Nervous System Decides | Bill McKenna and Liz Larson
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In this episode, I sit down with Bill McKenna and Liz Larson, the co-creators of Cognomovement, to explore one of the most influential - and least examined - forces shaping our lives: the subconscious patterns running quietly in the background.
Most of us sense these patterns only when we’re forced to confront them - repeating the same relationship dynamics, sabotaging ourselves around money or health, and reacting in ways we don’t fully understand. We can often see the pattern, but knowing it’s there doesn’t necessarily give us a way out.
This conversation moves into that gap.
We talk about the subconscious not as something abstract, but as the nervous system itself - a living, biological process that generates emotion, perception, and reaction before thought ever arrives. Bill and Liz describe how these emotional circuits can act like an “electric fence” around our lives, quietly defining what feels possible, safe, or threatening.
We do a live, unscripted Cognomovement process around a long-running pattern of mine. What unfolds is not analysis or storytelling, but a direct shift in perception: how something that once felt immediate and charged can suddenly move into the past, creating space for entirely new options to appear.
We also explore grief, cravings, confirmation bias, projection in relationships, and the strange way reality seems to reorganise itself when an internal pattern collapses.
If you're looking to break a pattern in your life, then this is the episode for you.
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