The 62nd episode of What the M features Kevin Shivers, President and CEO of the Pennsylvania Association of Community Bankers.

In this episode, Kent, Steve, and Kevin take a closer look at the community banking industry. Community banks throughout the United States are a backbone of small community banking, lending and financial services to many. In these ever-changing times of the financial world, one area of growth and strength continues to be community banks – the local branch right on Main Street in your hometown.

Welcome to What the M, Kevin!

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A huge thank you to our Season 4 sponsor, Black Dome Services. Black Dome Services is a next-generation property services provider, offering a comprehensive range of services tailored to the unique needs of their clients. From property inspections, preservation, maintenance, renovations and various other interior and exterior property related services, you have a trusted leader dedicated to delivering exceptional results and maximizing the value of your properties. For more information, please visit their website at www.blackdomeservices.com or email Vic Draper at Victor.Draper@blackdomeservices.com.

The 61st episode of What the M features Kent McPhail and Steve Hladik wrapping up 2025 with a year-end review. Check it out to find out what happened- and didn’t happen- in the default servicing industry this year, along with what Kent and Steve predict is next to come in 2026!

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A huge thank you to our Season 4 sponsor, Black Dome Services. Black Dome Services is a next-generation property services provider, offering a comprehensive range of services tailored to the unique needs of their clients. From property inspections, preservation, maintenance, renovations and various other interior and exterior property related services, you have a trusted leader dedicated to delivering exceptional results and maximizing the value of your properties. For more information, please visit their website at www.blackdomeservices.com or email Vic Draper at Victor.Draper@blackdomeservices.com.

The 60th episode of What the M features Sergeant Gina Dascola, retired from the Allegheny County Sheriff’s Office and founder of Dascola Consulting, LLC.

In this episode, Sgt. Gina Dascola shares her 40 years of experience with the foreclosure sheriff sale process in Pennsylvania. While emphasizing the importance of due diligence and discussing the challenges faced during live sales, Gina also shares the impact of technology on the sales process, the effects of economic crises on foreclosure rates, and the common misconceptions surrounding the sheriff's role in the process. As she transitions into consulting, Gina offers valuable advice to her younger self, encouraging resilience and confidence in the face of challenges. We are very lucky to have Gina's expertise featured on the show, and we know that listeners will gain valuable insight from “the Dean of foreclosures in Pennsylvania”!

Welcome to What the M, Gina!

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A huge thank you to our Season 4 sponsor, Black Dome Services. Black Dome Services is a next-generation property services provider, offering a comprehensive range of services tailored to the unique needs of their clients. From property inspections, preservation, maintenance, renovations and various other interior and exterior property related services, you have a trusted leader dedicated to delivering exceptional results and maximizing the value of your properties. For more information, please visit their website at www.blackdomeservices.com or email Vic Draper at Victor.Draper@blackdomeservices.com.

The 59th episode of What the M features Glenn Brooks, President of Genstone Asset Disposition.

In this episode, Glenn shares his journey into the industry, offering a unique perspective on the challenges and opportunities that have shaped his career over the past three decades. Glenn also discusses the current state of the REO market with Kent and Steve and shares his predictions for the future, including the role of technology and AI in streamlining operations and enhancing efficiency.

Glenn Brooks leads the Asset Disposition business unit at The Fay Group, where he oversees the team responsible for helping clients maximize returns while mitigating losses on REO. Earlier in his career, Glenn held several leadership roles at Eastern Savings Bank. He also spent 10 years as a licensed General Contractor, owned a mortgage brokerage, and managed a title company operating in 18 states. With more than 30 years of experience in property preservation, construction, REO, and foreclosure management, Glenn brings a deep understanding of asset performance, value recovery, and operational efficiency.

Welcome to What the M, Glenn!

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A huge thank you to our Season 4 sponsor, Black Dome Services. Black Dome Services is a next-generation property services provider, offering a comprehensive range of services tailored to the unique needs of their clients. From property inspections, preservation, maintenance, renovations and various other interior and exterior property related services, you have a trusted leader dedicated to delivering exceptional results and maximizing the value of your properties. For more information, please visit their website at www.blackdomeservices.com or email Vic Draper at Victor.Draper@blackdomeservices.com.

For the 58th episode of What the M, Kent McPhail and Steve Hladik honor John Bell, a titan of the mortgage industry and dedicated public servant.

John Bell III attended Lambuth University in Jackson, Tennessee before spending more than 15 years in the private sector, including serving as the Vice President of VA Real Estate Management at Bank of America. John was a Navy Veteran who served in both the Gulf War and Operation Restore Hope. This background made John uniquely suited for his most recent position as Executive Director of the Department of Veterans Affairs Home Loan Guaranty program. Since 1945, the VA program has backed more than 25 million loans and currently holds a 12% share of the total single-family market in the United States. John’s passion for the program and its benefit to our servicemembers shines through in his conversation with Kent and Steve. Press “play” to meet the man John Dunnery calls “the most innovative person who has been at the VA in the last 40 years, AND the best government hire of the past 40 years.”

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A huge thank you to our Season 4 sponsor, Black Dome Services. Black Dome Services is a next-generation property services provider, offering a comprehensive range of services tailored to the unique needs of their clients. From property inspections, preservation, maintenance, renovations and various other interior and exterior property related services, you have a trusted leader dedicated to delivering exceptional results and maximizing the value of your properties. For more information, please visit their website at www.blackdomeservices.com or email Vic Draper at Victor.Draper@blackdomeservices.com.

In the 57th episode of “What The M,” hosts Kent McPhail and Steve Hladik dive into the Foreclosure Abuse Prevention Act (FAPA). Steve, taking the guest seat, breaks down what FAPA is, why it was enacted, and how its retroactive application has created major challenges for lenders, investors, and servicers. From constitutional implications under the Takings Clause to ripple effects on the secondary market and loan originations, Kent and Steve explore how this controversial law could change the mortgage industry across the country.

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A huge thank you to our Season 4 sponsor, Black Dome Services. Black Dome Services is a next-generation property services provider, offering a comprehensive range of services tailored to the unique needs of their clients. From property inspections, preservation, maintenance, renovations and various other interior and exterior property related services, you have a trusted leader dedicated to delivering exceptional results and maximizing the value of your properties. For more information, please visit their website at www.blackdomeservices.com or email Vic Draper at Victor.Draper@blackdomeservices.com.

The 56th episode of What the M features Michael Merritt, Senior Vice President of Customer Care and Default Mortgage Servicing at BOK Financial.

A longtime friend of the show is back for his 3rd visit! Michael Merritt has returned to What the M. This time around, he is here to share his thoughts on the topic of the new HUD bidding guidelines and their impact on the industry. Michael is the Senior Vice President of Customer Care and Default Mortgage Servicing at BOK Financial. Michael attended Arizona State University, where he got his BA in Organizational Leadership (Go Sun Devils!) He then received his MBA from Texas Tech and his Master’s Degree in Legal Studies from Texas A&M. Michael worked at Nationstar Mortgage and Goldman Sachs prior to moving to BOK.

Welcome BACK to What the M, Michael!

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A huge thank you to our Season 4 sponsor, Black Dome Services. Black Dome Services is a next-generation property services provider, offering a comprehensive range of services tailored to the unique needs of their clients. From property inspections, preservation, maintenance, renovations and various other interior and exterior property related services, you have a trusted leader dedicated to delivering exceptional results and maximizing the value of your properties. For more information, please visit their website at www.blackdomeservices.com or email Vic Draper at Victor.Draper@blackdomeservices.com.

The 55th episode of What the M features LeAllen Frost, Executive Vice President & Deputy General Counsel - Head of Litigation at Pennymac.

It’s that time again… for a new episode of What the M! Kent and Steve are excited to be joined by LeAllen Frost, Deputy General Counsel at Pennymac—a top lender and servicer that has helped more than five million homeowners achieve their aspirations of homeownership.

In this episode, Kent, Steve, and LeAllen take a closer look at the legal side of mortgage default servicing: how regulation is evolving, how borrowers are impacted, and what the future holds for compliance, risk management, and innovation within the industry. LeAllen shares insights from his extensive career, offering a unique perspective on the future of mortgage servicing. Tune in for an engaging discussion on the legal intricacies and innovations shaping the industry today!

With 20 years of experience in the mortgage industry, LeAllen Frost is a seasoned and versatile litigation, regulatory, and compliance counsel who handles class action litigation, regulatory investigations, and employee management. He is passionate about providing effective and efficient legal services to Pennymac, public speaking and legal education. LeAllen founded and organizes the Mortgage Servicing In-House Counsel Forum, a network of mortgage attorneys who host conferences and CLE events focused on legal issues related to mortgage and consumer finance. He is also a regular speaker at industry conferences, and teaches legal writing training to corporate departments and law firms.

Welcome to What the M, LeAllen!

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A huge thank you to our Season 4 sponsor, Black Dome Services. Black Dome Services is a next-generation property services provider, offering a comprehensive range of services tailored to the unique needs of their clients. From property inspections, preservation, maintenance, renovations and various other interior and exterior property related services, you have a trusted leader dedicated to delivering exceptional results and maximizing the value of your properties. For more information, please visit their website at www.blackdomeservices.com or email Vic Draper at Victor.Draper@blackdomeservices.com.