Tim Tebow's presentations at Life Surge events felt more like prosperity gospel tent revivals than "Christian" wealth seminars. This helps explain why so many people felt scammed.

In this episode, we unpack how a $30 all-day event leads to a $97 class and then $10,000 to $50,000 tiers - often on stacked credit cards - all sold as "Kingdom Impact." We dismantle the theology behind it by unpacking the lies of the prosperity gospel: faith measured by wealth, tithing triggers miracles, doubt is demonic, and debt is faith. We end the episode discussing what a progressive theology of money could look like using one of John Wesley's famous sermons, "Earn all you can, Save all you can, Give all you can."

If you grew up hearing that suffering means lack of faith, or that questioning a pitch means the devil is talking to you - beloved, this one is for you. Doubt is discernment. It is not sin.

Featuring reporting from the two-part by Pablo Torre @PabloTorreFindsOut We Investigated the Christian "Scam" Fronted by Tim Tebow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh7s2jr0b48, and From Tim Tebow to Urban Meyer: Backstage at Ohio State for Life Surge https://youtu.be/NV7tvC-lPqQ?si=NY-aEjse55norcYB, and the @MotherJones investigation into Life Surge by Kiera Butler.

Please note that Tim Tebow paused his relationship with Life Surge after investigations into high-pressure Christian wealth seminars.

The theology of Christian Nationalism is light on CHRISTian and heavy on Nationalism. This framing empowers Theobros like Joshua Haymes to claim that "it is not inherently evil to own another human being," and still claim to be a Christian. So where is Jesus in all of this?

In this week's episode, we go through the four pastors named in Bob Smietana's @ReligionNewsService essay "The Rise of the Jim Crow Theobros": Michael Spangler, Joel Webbon, Joshua Haymes, and Dale Partridge. We discuss how these men turn racism, misogyny, and Christian Nationalism into a business. We then analyze how Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's use of Isaiah 6:8 during his Send Me tour at Texas A&M follows the same pattern of biblical misinterpretation that is used by the Theobros. We look at what the passage actually says - Isaiah is called to bring his people back to God, not to go to war.

We close with Howard Thurman's Jesus and the Disinherited and some practical ways to read the Bible through the lens of love. It also covers how to act on the articles of impeachment against Hegseth, and some good news: Everest's 96-mile interfaith pilgrimage from Adelanto Detention Center to downtown Los Angeles.

📰 Read the RNS essay: "The Rise of the Jim Crow Theobros" by Bob Smietana https://religionnews.com/2026/09/24/the-rise-of-the-jim-crow-theobros/

⚠️ Content note: This episode quotes defenses of slavery, segregation and Nazism in the speakers' own words, so that we can expose them.

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After deconstruction, how do you find a church that won't hurt you again? In the final episode of our series, Christian Deconstruction and Reconstruction: Finding Faith Again, we describe the journeys we each took to find belonging in a progressive church community.

Deconstruction can leave you lonely.

You lost your old church, and perhaps you even lost your community. How do you find community again? What does belonging even look like after deconstruction? In this episode, we talk honestly about what a healthy faith community looks like after church hurt, why belonging is different from fitting in, and how to find a progressive church where you can ask hard questions without getting kicked out.

If you're navigating Christian deconstruction and wondering where you belong now, this is for you.

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This is the final episode of our 4-part series on Deconstructing & Reconstructing Christianity. Episode 1, Faith Deconstruction Explained, can be found here: https://youtu.be/6Ia2JhMeXuQ

Listen to the full After Deconstruction sermon series playlist by Rev. Dr. Carter: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPGxCVGYVnrA

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