Michael Marshall and Cecil Cicirello break down Joe's September 2026 interview with David Grusch.

Topics covered: Grusch tells us about his work in government, how he uncovered a child trafficking ring inside a federal agency. They talk about a CIA officer with $40 million in gold bars, Iran-Contra and Havana Syndrome. These spend some time on a closed-door Senate meeting where Grusch says he learned people wanted to kill him. They talk about Trump's courage, Stephen Miller being a "fellow alpha," and why disclosure is definitely coming before 2028; dead aliens who look like beautiful Greek gods, seven-foot scaly gorilla reptilian aliens that killed U.S. soldiers and were then shot; tall grays, short grays, Nordics, and maybe insect people; telepathy as an alien countermeasure; an alien base the size of several city blocks on the ocean floor; and the threat that AI will reveal the truth before the government does. Then they get to ancient aliens: the Egyptian labyrinth, the Book of Enoch, the Book of Ezekiel, the Anunnaki, elongated Peruvian skulls, Leviticus as alien hygiene advice, and Watergate as a UFO cover-up. And he would provide you with proof, but he's not at liberty to divulge anything right now.

Clips used under fair use from JRE show #2560

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Michael Marshall and Cecil Cicirello break down Joe's July 2016 interview with Milo Yiannopoulos.

Topics include: Stolen valour, Brexit, Islam, feminism, refugees and migrants, sexual assault and rape and how neither of those things are actually prevalent on college campuses; they talk about cultural appropriation and the scourge of anti-white racism; abortion, the causes of homosexuality, vaping, Canada; the upcoming Trump v Clinton election; why nationalism is good and why words can't hurt you; and a huge amount about trans people.

Main:

• Michelle Obama Retools "I'm Proud" Remark - CBS News - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michelle-obama-retools-im-proud-remark/

• Women CEOs | Fortune 500 Female CEOs | Catalyst - https://www.catalyst.org/en-us/insights/featured/women-ceos

• Gender Identity/Gender Expression Legal Enforcement Guidance - https://www.nyc.gov/site/cchr/law/legal-guidances-gender-identity-expression.page

Toolbox:

• This is what a DePaul feminist looks like | Milo on Twitter - https://x.com/Nero/status/735186552335306756/photo/1

• Sally Kohn on X: "Simple fact is that progressive Muslims recognize my fundamental humanity and equality as a queer person more than Christian right does." / X - https://x.com/sallykohn/status/742402183333830656

• Mom Who Wants Her Kid to Be Gay Sparks Conversation - https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mom-who-wants-her-kid-to-be-gay-sparks-111874622052.html

Clips used under fair use from JRE show #820.

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Michael Marshall and Cecil Cicirello break down Joe's June 2026 interview with Chase Hughes.

Main

• factpoint | Why the universe is obsessed with the double helix | Instagram

• Harmine - Wikipedia

• Did 'Shrooms Send Santa And His Reindeer Flying? : NPR

• History of Christmas Trees: Symbolism & Traditions

• Alzheimer's Patient Regains Speech & Mobility After High-Dose Magic Mushrooms

• Methylene Blue Exerts Anticonvulsant and Neuroprotective Effects on Self-Sustaining Status Epilepticus (SSSE) Induced by Prolonged Basolateral Amygdala Stimulation in Wistar Rats - PMC

Undercard

• Family behind OxyContin knowingly deceived public about safety of the opioid drugs, court documents allege - ABC News

• Purdue Pharma lawsuit: Family behind OxyContin-maker engineered opioid crisis, Massachusetts AG says - CBS News

• Filing: OxyContin Maker Forecast 'Blizzard of Prescriptions' – NBC Boston

• The opioid epidemic: Who is to blame? - 60 Minutes - CBS News

• Inside Purdue Pharma's Media Playbook: How It Planted the Opioid "Anti-Story" — ProPublica

• C.I.A. Ties to Journalists - The New York Times

Clips used under fair use from JRE show #2515

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• Marsh - Skeptics with a K and The Skeptic Podcast

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