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The Gen Mess with Tess

The Gen Mess with Tess

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Are generational divides in the workplace and in life driving you crazy?

The Gen Mess with Tess is here to help! Hosted by Tess Brigham—certified coach, licensed therapist, TEDx speaker, author, and mom to a Gen Zer—this podcast tackles the challenges and complexities of navigating life and work across multiple generations. From the unique struggles of Gen Z to the evolving perspectives of Millennials, Gen X, and Baby Boomers, Tess brings her expertise to the table, offering practical advice, expert insights, and real conversations to bridge the generational gap. Whether you're trying to communicate better with colleagues, understand your kids, or just get a clearer perspective on the "mess" of it all, The Gen Mess with Tess is your go-to resource for understanding how different generations think, work, and live.

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Tess Brigham Erfolg im Beruf Hygiene & gesundes Leben Management & Leadership Seelische & Geistige Gesundheit Ökonomie
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  • Ep 84: Why You Misunderstand Gen Z at Work (with Danielle Farage)

    Ep 84: Why You Misunderstand Gen Z at Work (with Danielle Farage)
    Oct 28 2026
    Danielle Farage graduated from USC in 2020, watched her generation get locked out of entry-level jobs during COVID, and turned that experience into a career translating Gen Z for the rest of the working world. In this episode, Tess and Danielle unpack why organizations keep losing young talent before they ever get started, what the generational divide actually looks like from inside a company, and why curiosity may be the only leadership skill that genuinely bridges it. They explore the economic realities facing Gen Z, a growing “quiet AI revolt” inside the workforce, the cognitive cost of offloading thinking to AI, and Danielle’s framework called frentorship, a mutual cross-generational relationship built on what each person can learn, leave behind, and leverage. Listeners will walk away with a clearer picture of what Gen Z actually wants from leaders and the one move any leader can make this week to start closing the gap. KEY TAKEAWAYS Only 12 percent of Gen Z had a job lined up at graduation this year. For millennials just 10 to 15 years ago, that number was three times higher. The best leaders invest in new team members from day one with specific, personal attention that has nothing to do with workflow. The corporate ladder still exists, but there is far less room on it than Gen Z was promised, and they can see that clearly. Gen Z’s quiet resistance to AI is real and growing. Most organizations are not addressing it. Offloading thinking to AI carries a cognitive cost. Mental capacity works the same way as physical capacity: use it or lose it. When a new hire is not performing, the first question should be whether they ever clearly understood what was expected of them. Leaders who criticize Gen Z for being “too sensitive” are often the same people who raised their own children the same way. Frentorship is a mutual relationship between people of different generations built on three questions: what can I learn, what can I leave behind, and what can I leverage. Saying the next generation will figure out today’s problems is a declaration of retirement, whether the speaker intends it or not. Curiosity is the most accessible and immediate leadership move for closing the intergenerational gap. TIMESTAMPS 00:01 - Why Danielle chose Gen Z at work as her life’s focus 02:07 - Graduating during COVID and the toxic first internship 08:08 - What a genuinely great manager actually does differently 11:04 - How Gen X and Gen Z see the workplace through different lenses 17:10 - What the pandemic revealed about undefined workplace expectations 21:12 - Is the corporate ladder dead? 28:30 - The real numbers behind Gen Z’s job market 30:44 - Gen Z’s quiet revolt against AI 38:20 - Why “Gen Z is too sensitive” is the wrong question 42:35 - What frentorship is and why it belongs in the workplace Find Danielle Farage at https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielle-farage/ Follow The Gen Mess for more weekly content. Visit tessbrigham.com to learn more.
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    52 Min.
  • Ep 83: Why Good Employees in Caring Professions Leave (with Crystal Stokes)

    Ep 83: Why Good Employees in Caring Professions Leave (with Crystal Stokes)
    Oct 21 2026
    This episode examines why dedicated, compassionate professionals in veterinary medicine and other caring fields burn out and leave, and what leaders should be considering in the modern workplace. Crystal Stokes, a licensed marriage and family therapist and doctoral candidate who founded Full Circle Lab, brings a perspective shaped by her own unexpected path. What are the emotional and systemic forces pushing good people out of caring professions? What do generational differences actually look like inside a veterinary practice? And what specific leadership skills, onboarding systems, and feedback structures determine whether a new hire stays or leaves within the first year? Listeners will walk away with a clearer picture of why culture is a business strategy, not a soft extra, and what well-supported teams actually look like from the inside. KEY TAKEAWAYS Burnout in caring professions The corporatization of veterinary medicine The generational difference in the workplace The Seasons of Life Why onboarding is not an administrative task Why clarity is a leadership obligation How employee assistance programs routinely fail caring profession workers TIMESTAMPS 00:01 - Why a pre-vet student left the field and accidentally became a therapist 03:31 - How volunteering at a hospital led to the origin of Full Circle Lab 05:46 - What is actually burning out veterinary professionals 08:24 - When burnout escalates: suicidal ideation in veterinary medicine 10:13 - Why culture change stalls at the leadership level, not the team level 17:49 - How younger workers approach the workplace differently than older generations 21:39 - Where the mental health awareness pendulum may be swinging too far 25:36 - Why life in seasons beats work-life balance as a framework 30:00 - What younger workers need from leadership that they are not getting 33:07 - How onboarding and performance management directly drive retention Learn more about Full Circle Lab: https://www.fullcirclelab.com/ Follow The Gen Mess with Tess for weekly insights into the modern workplace. Join the free "Dear Gen Mess" community at tessbrigham.com/podcast Visit tessbrigham.com to learn more.
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    49 Min.
  • Ep 82: Why You Feel Empty Despite Accomplishing Everything (with Neil Markey)

    Ep 82: Why You Feel Empty Despite Accomplishing Everything (with Neil Markey)
    Oct 14 2026
    This episode examines what it takes to heal when talk therapy and medication are not reaching the root cause. Neil Markey, co-founder and CEO of Beckley Retreats and a former U.S. Army Ranger who completed three combat deployments, shares how unresolved PTSD brought him to meditation and professionally facilitated psychedelic experiences, and how that personal path became a professional one. Tess and Neil explore why high-achieving professionals often feel empty despite accomplishing everything on paper, how trauma is stored in the body rather than just the mind, and why psilocybin retreats are gaining serious traction from the VA to bipartisan lawmakers. Listeners will come away with a clearer picture of what psychedelic-assisted therapy actually involves, how it differs from ketamine, and why developing a meditation practice may be the most important investment anyone can make in their mental health right now. KEY TAKEAWAYS SSRIs and anti-anxiety medications reduce symptoms, but they do not address the root cause of trauma. Many people who rely on them alone remain stuck in a state of fight or flight. Trauma is stored in the body, not just the mind. There are more neural channels running from the body to the brain than from the brain to the body, which is why body-based practices often reach what talk therapy cannot. High-performing professionals are at particular risk of emotional disconnection. Years of operating in analytical, problem-solving mode can quietly cut off access to emotion, intuition, and genuine human connection. The fear of losing your edge after a psychedelic or healing experience is almost universally unfounded. People who complete these programs consistently report gaining capacity, not losing capability. The benefit of a psychedelic experience is not the experience itself. Without new habits and practices installed around it, most people revert to their previous patterns over time because the body returns to what it knows. Psilocybin is non-toxic and non-addictive. The main risk is taking too much in an uncontrolled setting. In a structured retreat with trained facilitators, the risks are manageable and are often part of the process. Ketamine is federally legal in the United States and psilocybin is not, though legal psilocybin programs exist in certain state and international contexts. Ketamine can be addictive and toxic at high doses. Psilocybin tends to amplify what is already present emotionally, making set and setting critical. The VA has formally included the evaluation of psychedelic medicines in its strategic plan for the first time. The issue has rare bipartisan political support. Healing happens in community, not just in individual clinical settings. Group retreat models provide therapeutic benefits that one-on-one therapy alone does not, particularly for veterans. MBSR, Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction, is the most clinically studied form of meditation and requires no spiritual framework. Committing to a structured course is one of the most accessible starting points for anyone looking to build a lasting practice. TIMESTAMPS 00:01 - How September 11th led a college student to become an Army Ranger 02:27 - Why PTSD keeps the nervous system in fight or flight long after combat ends 05:12 - How trauma lives in the body and why the mind cannot reach it alone 10:16 - Who comes to psychedelic retreats and what they are actually looking for 12:37 - Why high performers are especially prone to emotional disconnection 18:03 - What Gen X professionals most want from this kind of work 21:19 - How Beckley Retreats structures programs before, during, and after 28:05 - Psilocybin versus ketamine: what the real differences are 32:25 - Why group healing models work, especially for veterans 41:03 - How the VA and bipartisan lawmakers are changing access to psychedelic therapy Learn more about Neil Markey and Beckley Retreats at beckleyretreats.com Learn more about host Tess Brigham at tessbrigham.com Subscribe to The Gen Mess with Tess for weekly episodes tackling the generational challenges and complexities of navigating life and work.
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    52 Min.
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