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The Color Between the Lines with Esther Dillard is a storytelling podcast that explores the histories, voices, and truths that often go unheard—but deeply shape our world. Hosted by award-winning journalist and educator Esther Dillard, the show features thoughtful conversations with authors, activists, cultural leaders, and change-makers who use story to inform, challenge, and connect. Each episode goes beyond headlines to uncover the deeper context behind culture, history, and current events—helping listeners understand not just what happened, but why it matters. Listeners come away with a clearer understanding of how storytelling influences public opinion, policy, education, and identity. The podcast also offers insight into how stories can be used more intentionally—in advocacy, leadership, creative work, and everyday life—to communicate with clarity, build trust, and create impact. If you’re curious about history, culture, and the power of narrative to shape perspective and possibility, The Color Between the Lines invites you to listen more closely—and hear what’s always been there.© 2025 The Color Between The Lines with Esther Dillard Kunst Sozialwissenschaften Welt
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  • Why You Were Taught Your Hair Was the Problem | Dr. Toshua Cornwell-Clark Explains
    Oct 20 2026

    In 1786, the Spanish colonial governor of Louisiana ordered free women of African descent in New Orleans to cover their hair. More than two centuries later, states are still passing laws so Black people can wear their hair the way it grows. Sociologist Dr. Toshua L. Cornwell-Clark spent more than 30 years in the beauty industry, and she argues that the pressure behind those laws never went away. She calls it the colonial costume.

    In this conversation, Dr. Cornwell-Clark explains the colonial costume framework and why she named her book Eternal Black Eye. She defines texturism and explains why straight hair became the measure of what looks professional. She describes the toll that constant straightening takes on Black women, and she explains why she finds it sad that the CROWN Act had to exist at all. She also talks about the messages Black families pass to their children and where she believes healing begins.

    CHAPTERS

    0:00 The 1786 order to cover Black women's hair

    0:55 What she saw in salons and classrooms

    1:32 The colonial costume, defined

    2:30 Why she named it Eternal Black Eye

    3:21 How the healing starts

    5:04 Texturism, explained

    6:20 The toll of the Eurocentric beauty standard

    7:55 Who profits from Black hair

    10:14 How America views Black hair

    11:26 The CROWN Act

    12:30 A global standard of beauty

    14:40 The messages we pass to our children

    16:25 Healing the black eye

    17:14 Close

    Music: "Let's Groove" by Hotham is licensed under a Creative Commons License. License: Let's Groove - Hotham | Royalty Free Music. Stream: https://linktr.ee/hothammusic Support by RFM - NCM: https://bit.ly/2xGHypM

    ABOUT THE GUEST

    • Dr. Toshua L. Cornwell-Clark, Ed.D., is a sociologist, the creator of the colonial costume framework, and the author of Eternal Black Eye.
    • Eternal Black Eye on Amazon. https://link.amazon/B0f4QL9dB

    FOR EDUCATORS

    Free classroom discussion guides for my history and civic series are available to free subscribers on Substack: https://substack.com/@iamestherdillard

    Full educator resource bundles are available on Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/shop/ColorBtwLinesMarket

    Subscribe to The Color Between the Lines for stories about the history behind the way we live now. Your story matters.

    #BlackHistory #CROWNAct #NaturalHair #BlackHair #ProtectiveStyles #HairDiscrimination #Texturism #Colorism #TignonLaw #BlackWomen #Sociology #EternalBlackEye #GoodHair #BlackHistoryLessons #CivicEducation #TeachingHistory #EducatorResources #TheColorBetweenTheLines #EstherDillard

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    18 min
  • Your World Map Has Been Lying to You for 500 Years | 9 Wins You Didn't Hear About
    Sep 29 2026

    You've been looking at a map that's wrong your entire life not roughly wrong, wrong on purpose, for 500 years, in a way that's made an entire continent look smaller than it actually is. This month, one country stood up and said stop. One other country voted to keep it that way. In this episode of The Color Between the Lines, Esther Dillard hosts solo no guest, just nine good-news stories from the past month that reflect Black achievement, community organizing, and progress the daily headlines tend to leave out.

    Esther walks through the UN's 164-to-1 vote to move nations away from the 500-year-old Mercator map, Los Angeles renaming a downtown park for formerly enslaved landowner Bridget "Biddy" Mason, Michigan's tuition-free Reconnect program helping adults finish their degrees, New York's new textured-hair licensing requirement for cosmetology students, a Baltimore pastor turning church land into working farms, a founder's smart handoff at the skincare brand Topicals, Jordyn Woods' homecoming honeymoon across Africa, and a South African recycling program pulling tons of e-waste out of landfills.

    New episodes of The Color Between the Lines drop every week on iHeartRadio, the Alive Podcast Network, and wherever you get your podcasts.

    Sources referenced: the United Nations General Assembly, the Los Angeles City Council, the Michigan Reconnect program, New York State, the Natural Hairstyle and Braid Coalition, the Black Church Food Security Network, Topicals, and the World Travel Awards Gala.

    Chapters:

    00:00 Cold Open

    00:18 Intro Nine Wins, No Guest Today

    00:38 The Mercator Projection

    01:12 UN Votes 164-1 to Move Away From the Map

    01:49 Win 2 LA Renames a Park for Biddy Mason

    02:54 Win 3 Michigan Reconnect

    03:27 Win 4 New York Mandates Textured Hair Education

    04:09 The Honest Add A Law Can Mandate Curriculum, Not Skill

    05:07 Win 5 Baltimore Pastor Turns Church Lots Into Farms

    05:56 Win 6 Topicals Founder Hands Off to a New CEO

    06:36 Win 7 Jordyn Woods' Homecoming Honeymoon to Africa

    07:14 Win 8 Tanzania Named Africa's Top Tourism Destination

    07:31 Win 9 South Africa's E-Waste Recycling Win

    07:52 Recap

    08:27 Closing

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    9 min
  • They Tried to Erase This Street Three Times. She Stopped Them. | ERASED: Freedmen's Town
    Sep 22 2026

    A construction crew tore up a Houston street, and underneath the asphalt were bricks laid by hand more than 150 years ago by people who had only just been freed from slavery. Three separate times between 2014 and 2016, the city tried to dig them up for good. Three separate times, someone stood in the way including a woman who climbed into the excavation hole herself and refused to move.

    In this episode, we trace the story of Freedmen's Town: a community that built its own doctors, schools, and streets by hand when the city refused to, and the century-long fight to keep it from being erased. You'll hear how formerly enslaved Houstonians built this neighborhood after being denied basic infrastructure for six years straight, the three separate attempts to tear up its historic brick streets, why this ground is now part of an active bid to become a United Nations World Heritage Site, and a proposed federal law that would trace a 51-mile trail all the way from the origin of Juneteenth to this exact spot.

    Key figures: Rev. Jack Yates, Rutherford B.H. Yates, Catherine Roberts, Doris Ellis Robinson, Ben Hall, Mayor Sylvester Turner.

    Sourced from the Houston Press, ABC13 News, the National Register of Historic Places, and congressional testimony from the Houston Freedmen's Town Conservancy.

    In partnership with Amplified Voices TV.

    For educators: our companion discussion guide and full classroom lesson bundle are available now link in the show notes.

    Free resources on Substack, paid bundles on Etsy and TPT.

    Subscribe for more of the history that was suppressed, hidden, or simply never told.

    Music licensed via Artlist.io

    #ERASED #FreedmensTown #HoustonHistory #BlackHistory #UntoldAmericanStory #UNESCO #Juneteenth #BlackHistoryEducation #AmericanHistory #Houston #Emancipation

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    10 min
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