If you are currently working in ministry, how do you actually negotiate for better pay?

We're joined by Johnny Ragin, the founder of the massively popular Worship Sound Guy platform. We dive deep into the taboo topic of church finances, discussing Johnny's starting church tech salary, and debate if churches have to consider touring/corporate AVL jobs when they look at the market rate for church techs salaries.

In this episode you'll hear:

0:00 Intro: Toby’s Gear Flipping Origin Story

7:00 Johnny Ragin (Worship Sound Guy) Joins the Podcast!

11:00 The Reality of Starting Salaries in Church Tech

20:10 Who Actually Sets the Market Rate for Church Tech Salaries?

27:00 Why the Role of Technical Director Has Gotten Significantly Harder

31:30 The Disconnect: Job Description Demands vs. Offered Salary

35:00 The Case for (and against) Hiring Highly Skilled, Part-Time Church Techs

40:00 Strategy: How to Ask for a Raise Without Getting a Promotion

46:30 Should You Bring Personal Life Circumstances into a Salary Negotiation?

55:00 Keep Sundays Running: Why Johnny Actually Left His Church Role

1:00:00 Church Tech Confessional: An AI Translation Disaster

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What actually happens to your ministry job when your marriage falls apart? Will you be immediately fired, or will your leadership team walk alongside you?

In this incredibly vulnerable and necessary episode, we sit down with Justin Firesheets to tackle the taboo and deeply painful reality of navigating a divorce while serving on church staff. Justin opens up about his own personal journey, walking us through exactly how and when he approached his executive leadership team.

In this episode you'll hear:

0:00 Intro: The Difficulty of Marriage

5:15 Justin Firesheets Joins the Podcast!

9:45 Navigating a Divorce While on Church Staff

12:00 How to Talk to Executive Leadership About a Coming Divorce

24:15 How Long Should You Wait Before Disclosing It to Leadership?

25:30 Did the Church Have an Official Policy on Staff Divorce?

29:25 The Fear of Losing Your Ministry Job During a Personal Crisis

43:15 The Debate: Should Divorce Policies Differ Depending on Your Church Role?

47:15 Justin’s Advice: When to Bring Leadership in to Help

57:50 Church Tech Confessional

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What happens when the production team at one of the largest mega-churches in the country experiences a complete Sunday morning meltdown? And more importantly, how do you face your executive leadership the next day?

In this incredibly vulnerable episode, we are joined by Live Production Lead Mike Smith and Director of Media Bryan Bailey from the massive Prestonwood Baptist Church in Plano, Texas. Mike pulls back the curtain to share the absolute worst Sunday of his entire church production career, walking us through the terrifying reality of the failure and advice on handling leadership conversations that follow these moments.

In this episode you'll hear:

0:00 Intro: Toby and Blake’s Vehicle Disasters

5:30 Mike Smith & Bryan Bailey (Prestonwood Baptist Church) Join the Podcast

11:15 The Worst Sunday of Mike Smith’s Church Production Career

22:10 Navigating the Monday Meeting: The Conversation with Leadership

30:00 The Big Debate: Has Modern Church Production Gotten Too Fancy?

37:50 The Mental Game: How Long Does It Take to Recover from a Bad Sunday?

41:40 Practical Advice to Prevent Massive Church Tech Mistakes

47:30 Keep Sundays Running

52:00 Church Tech Confessional

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Are we outsourcing too many of our actual thoughts to Artificial Intelligence? And more importantly, is AI going to eventually replace the need for human volunteers in the tech booth?

In this episode, we are joined by Jake Gosselin, founder of Churchfront, to tackle the most highly debated topic in modern ministry: Artificial Intelligence. Jake shares his personal journey into live production before diving deep into exactly how AI is currently being integrated into the church tech space.

In this episode you'll hear:

0:00 Intro: Are We Outsourcing Too Many Thoughts to AI?

5:00 Jake Gosselin’s Journey into Church Tech (Churchfront)

16:00 How AI is Actually Being Integrated into Church Production

19:15 Can AI Fill the Gap for Understaffed Tech Ministries?

22:50 The Big Debate: Will AI Replace Church Tech Volunteers?

29:15 How to Start Integrating AI into Your Workflow Today

35:00 Will AI Kill Us All Terminator Style?

37:30 Church Tech Disaster Stories

42:45 Keep Sundays Running

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How does one of the largest churches in America handle their Sunday morning production, and more importantly, how do they recruit and train enough volunteers to make it happen?

In this episode, we are joined by Griffin McCravy, the Broadcast Lighting Director at Church of the Highlands. After kicking things off with some amazing stories about growing up with Dolly Parton, Griffin shares his personal journey into live production. We then pull back the curtain on the massive AVL operation at Church of the Highlands.

In this episode you'll hear:

0:00 Intro: Losing Dolly Parton

4:00 Griffin’s Experience Growing Up with Dolly Parton

13:20 Griffin’s Journey into Becoming a Lighting Director

20:00 Behind the Scenes: Production at Church of the Highlands

24:45 How to Find Great Church Tech Volunteers

28:00 Strategies for Training Tech Volunteers Well

35:00 Lighting Design at Church of the Highlands

43:00 ChurchGear Disaster Story with Highlands

47:15 Church Tech Disaster: Christmas Joy

49:20 Live Production Disaster: When the Lighting Guy Does Audio

52:15 Keep Sundays Running: Don’t Let It Become Normal

55:55 Church Tech Confessional

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Does running production for a massive, multi-site mega-church mean you need to buy every single piece of gear on the market? And when it comes to Sunday morning audio, can you actually trust a volunteer to mix Front of House?

In this episode, we are joined by Dwight Theaker of Austin Stone Community Church. We dive deep into the specific logistics of broadcasting across multiple locations and break down exactly what AVL gear Austin Stone prioritizes. Dwight shares the surprising revelation that their production team actively chooses to use less gear than the average church, and explains the massive benefits of that streamlined philosophy.

In this episode you'll hear:

0:00 Intro: Toby Lost a Job & Chris Tomlin Stories

5:00 Dwight Theaker (Austin Stone Community Church) Joins

10:00 Gear Talk: What is Austin Stone Church Actually Using?

14:00 The Logistics of Broadcasting Across Multiple Campuses

15:45 Comparing Gear Priorities: 12Stone vs. Austin Stone

18:00 Why Austin Stone Uses Less Gear Than the Average Church

22:00 The Big Debate: Should Your Church Buy a d&b Soundscape Rig?

25:00 Can You Actually Trust Volunteers to Mix FOH Audio?

32:15 Church Tech Disaster Story

35:30 Keep Sundays Running

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Are mega-churches actually more creative, or do they just have bigger budgets? And when it comes to your online service, should you really be livestreaming your worship set, or just the preaching?

In this episode, we are joined by Brady Shearer, founder of Pro Church Tools, to tackle some of the most debated topics in church communications and media. We dive into the unrealistic expectations that mega-churches set for local congregations, and try to identify the single biggest issue facing the church today.

In this episode you'll hear:

• 0:00 Intro: Toby Is Obsessed With AI
• 5:15 Brady Shearer (Pro Church Tools) Joins the Podcast!
• 11:00 How Mega-Churches Set Unrealistic Expectations for Everyone Else
• 15:40 Are Mega-Churches Actually More Creative?
• 21:00 Identifying the Biggest Issue in the Church Today
• 24:30 The Livestream Debate: Should You Stream Worship or Just the Sermon?
• 32:30 Hot Take: Why Your Church Needs Fewer Announcements
• 39:00 The Absolute Best Way to Recruit Church Tech Volunteers
• 44:00 Church Tech Disaster Stories
• 49:00 Keep Sundays Running: If It Works, Do It Again
• 51:00 The Most Common Mistakes Churches Make During Announcements

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Are modern church services finally moving away from dark, concert-style rooms and shifting back toward brighter environments? And if you are a lighting director, how do you make the jump from the MA2 console to the MA3?

In this episode, we are joined by freelance AVL production expert Aria Hailey. Aria shares her journey into live production and discusses the reality of freelancing in the current industry. We explore a massive trend happening right now: why so many highly skilled audio and lighting techs are actually leaving the touring world to take full-time church tech jobs.

In this episode you'll hear:

0:00 Intro: How Much Trouble Will Toby Get Into in Vegas?

4:45 Aria Hailey’s Journey Into AVL Production

9:15 The Highs and Lows of Freelancing in Live AVL

13:00 Overcoming "Blue Dot Syndrome" in Live Production

15:15 The Trend: Are Techs Leaving Tours for Church Jobs?

20:00 Designing Church Lighting for the Congregation (Not Your Ego)

23:00 Lighting Trends: Are We Shifting Back to Brighter Church Services?

28:15 How to Train the Next Generation of Church Lighting Techs

33:00 Console Talk: The Biggest Differences Between MA2 vs. MA3

35:30 Tech Disaster Story: "Hey, There is Smoke Behind Me!"

40:00 Keep Sundays Running: The Power of Snacks

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