Some venues are more than just places to play music.

Cain’s Ballroom in Tulsa is one of them.

The conversation turns to Cross Canadian Ragweed, Texas Hippie Coalition, and the first time stepping inside the legendary Cain’s Ballroom.

At first, it was just another show on the schedule.

But then came the walk around the building.

The pictures on the walls.

The history.

Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys.

Suddenly, it became clear that this was not just another concert venue.

This was a room where legends had stood.

The kind of musicians whose names would still be remembered long after they were gone.

And that is what makes Cain’s Ballroom so special.

It is not just about playing a great show.

It is about becoming part of something bigger.

The guys talk about how musicians work their entire lives hoping their names and music will outlive them.

Max sums it up with one word.

Longevity.

Cross Canadian Ragweed.

Texas Hippie Coalition.

Cain’s Ballroom.

And a reminder that the greatest legacy in music is being remembered long after the final encore.

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Davit Souders, Curley's, IKON 2.0, & The Hive

Oklahoma's underground music scene had some legendary venues, and this one went through several changes.

May 11, 2006.

The Hive.

But before it was The Hive, it was Curley's.

Then Davit Souders took over and turned it into IKON 2.0.

That did not last long.

Maybe six to nine months.

Then it became The Hive.

The guys remember how Davit tried to bring back the magic of the original IKON, booking industrial acts and underground bands.

But something was different.

The original IKON was a smaller room, several blocks away.

IKON 2.0 was huge.

And as the guys explain, you do not book up-and-coming underground bands in a massive room.

You put them in a smaller club where the crowd and energy fit.

Davit also worked closely with Larry Schaefer, who helped provide a place for shows that were too big for IKON.

After IKON closed, Davit continued working with Larry at The Caves.

And according to the guys, Davit is still involved in the music business today.

Curley's.

IKON 2.0.

The Hive.

Different names, different eras, and another piece of Oklahoma concert history worth remembering.

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Ever wonder where the money goes when you buy a VIP concert experience?

The guys break down the business behind meet and greets, VIP packages, and all that exclusive concert merchandise.

According to Max, VIP experiences are often handled by a completely separate company.

Not the venue.

Not the band's booking agent.

And not necessarily the same people handling regular concert merchandise.

But here is the catch.

You still need a concert ticket to participate.

So first, you buy your ticket.

Then you pay extra for the VIP experience.

And once you are in, you have to follow the rules.

Many VIP packages also come with special swag bags.

Tour shirts.

Posters.

Bandanas.

Exclusive merchandise.

Sometimes even coupons to use at the merch booth.

And that creates another interesting problem.

If you already received a free T-shirt with your VIP package, are you really going to buy another one at the show?

That is where VIP packages and regular merchandise sales start affecting each other.

Different companies.

Different revenue streams.

And a whole lot more business behind your concert experience than most fans realize.

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